The more our Holy Father speaks the more I am dismayed, insulted, offended and confused. He obviously has an agenda. The silver lining is that young people are finding the traditional Mass and apparently rejecting the liberal, modernist, Jesuit agenda. We are seeing a similar situation in our Parish. the young Pastor is more formal, reverent and traditional. Young people flock to his Mass. The older Priests (mid 70's) are angry, lazy improvise at Mass and canon wonder why their Masses are apsrsely attended. The blame the Pastor. One of these older Priests attended a meeting wearing shorts and shower scuffs while everyone there was in res clothing and the other Priests wearing a Roman collar. He said this is the way I like to life. The good news is they cannot live forever and hopefully their liberal poison will go when they go.

The reason Francis employs the word choice in question is to desensitize the public to the graphic nature of the sex act homosexual men regularily participate in. In an effort at legitimizing this, he takes slow steps, but in all liklihood this is the motive behind his offense.

Please support the Benedictine Center in Massachulets and especially New Hampshire. The Benedictines are Traditional Catholics. I signed in to have a Mass said for someone who just deceased. The Priest I spoke with was extremely nice but after I made the arrangements there was a letter to anyone who lived in, I think it is Richmond, New Hampshire, either they are vat11 people or protestants who hate Catholics, I do not know. however, it was the most horrendous letter, absolutely vile regarding traditional Catholics .....look it up on your computer if you want to read unadulterated hate. And I would like those who are very good with words to reply and make them see how demonic their attitude is. God bless and pray for the Benedictine Centers, I understand Massachussetts is not a whole lot better. We need these Centers as they are the heart of the Church!!!

In the past, Popes promoting heresy were removed and excommunicated . . . and on the way out the door, he should take his cadre that comprise the liberal secular progressive, permissive and apostate Cardinals with him. That should leave a sufficient number of Cardinals to find a worthy successor to Pope St Pius X.

rigidity; def. faithfulness.

Francis is supporting the UN/Soros agenda: environmentalism, muslim emigration, fake news statements (about rings of pedophilia ...)

He surrounds himself with sodomites and eugenicists. How's that for "accompaniment"?

As a former practicing homosexual, now Catholic and fully celibate, it is true that many facets of the gay sexual act go unspoken, and for good reason. The fact that Francis would use such word imagery (coprophlia) unhappily suggests a familiarily with it. Only close association with, as in actual practice, could acquaint, read: familiarise oneself, with such acts of depravity. Where else would a person learn about such a practice? It's true though, in the heat of passion, people actually do this. Sad, but such baseness in conversation as he used evidences personal familiarity. Yes, sodomy often times involves this practice. Alas, Francis has unwittingly revealed more about himself than he intended.

Not necessarily. To learn of such practices, a priest need not have been a participant, but could have learned about it in many different ways, the most obvious of which might be in hearing confessions. In truth, as someone who has always been straight and have never had sexually oriented conversations with someone who is gay, I don'the even know what this practice is.

Maybe so, but lot's of gay men in the gay community want out but see no avenue of regress.

Indeed, what type of person even knows the meaning of these words? The mind boggles. The sooner Bergoglio goes the better. Even liberal Catholic outlets are now voicing unease, and that's saying something.

Again it's familiarity. Truckers have an acute sense of the quality of the diesel fuel mix they put in their tanks, bakers know when cakes are done by the smell. As a high schooler I experimented with drugs, to this day I can discern the distinct oder of marijuana from tobacco, opium from hashish, etc. For Francis to use such abstruse terminology shouldn't be all that baffling, not inscrutable, nor puzzling. The Pope's word usage is from the gay underworld, exclusively a gay thing, and it isn't advertised, but in the gay community it isn't a strange thing at all. Indeed, it's part of the intimacy gay men experience. A heterosexual would never be exposed to this practice.

I've revisited this thread because, after some thought and prayer, there are some points which need to be raised. 1. This disgusting practice is not limited to the dark corners of the homosexual community. It occurs among heterosexual as well, although perhaps with less frequency and among fewer persons. 2. Psychologists seem to generally lump the practice in with other acts of sado-masochism. 3. It is far less a form of "intimacy" than a way of establishing and maintaining dominance over one's sexually "partner".

The 4th point is actually the most important. I have not read the article, but the quoted statement by Francis later in this thread suggests that the focus of this discussion has been totally distorted, twisted and sinfully insinuated the existence of attributes of Pope Francis for which there is no concrete evidence. Earlier in this thread a poster claimed a person would have no knowledge of the terms employed by Francis in the quote. However, both terms and their definitions can be found in a good dictionary. A careful and unbiased reading of the quote will strongly reveal the very real possibility that Francis was using these terms to avoid expressing his sentiments in a more vulgar way. For the sake of clarity, I will use the more common and vulgar expression: My interpretation of the statement by Pope Francis is that he was basically saying "The media dishes up crap (sh**) and the public (people) gobble it up, especially those who relish every little tidbit of gossip and scandal" if my take on his statement is accurate, those of us who are conservative will tend to agree. In the US the liberal media has been doing this for decades and a great many Americans appear to take the media's rubbish for gospel truth..

I think Francis used the terms to express his thoughts in a polite way while simultaneously being very emphatic. He could have said the same thing in a different way, but I doubt another wording would have conveyed his irritation as well.

Good attempt at putting the polish onto a bad apple. Can you imagine Jesus using imagery as filthy, as obscene, as perverse as Francis has in this specific idiom of speech? The suggestion that sado-masochism is attendant with these aforementioned homosexual behaviors is frankly incorrect. The practice is common, certainly not talked about, and goes hand in hand with the majority of gay male sexual encounters. That a priest would hear this level of intimacy from a parishioner in confession then use the concept in ordinary conversation is laughable, read: impossible. Difficult to digest but said word usage suggests personal experience with it. Minimizing sin in an attempt at normalizing it is a common thing, it lessens the guilt if we can encourage others to somehow feel an awkward empathy with it. He certainly wouldn't be the first gay priest to unconsciously betray an inner turbulence by letting slip indicators like this.

The neo-Catholic confectioners who have been dishing out the "Fake News" about the 'humble Pope Francis who loves the poor, who forgives perverts and adulterers out of Kasperian Mercy" have just found out what he really thinks of them and it's not: "Let Them Eat Cake".
http://arstechnica.com/tech...

Note you can find priests emails on diocesan websites.

Prayer is good but we cannot lose our minds - we must judge. (Yes!)
Prayer will sideline a huge mass of Internet soldiers.
We need more people emailing everywhere with links to this Remnant and supporting blogs contained in the email.
Just like this..

www.fatima.org

http://voxcantor.blogspot.ie/

http://www.onepeterfive.com/

http://rorate-caeli.blogspo...

https://mundabor.wordpress....

http://eponymousflower.blog...

Today email TEN priests in your diocese with these links. Everybody.
If 1 thousand people each email 100 priests over the next week, that is 20% of all ordained in the whole world.
(assuming not too much duplication.)
Praying for this pope is not good advice. He is too evil.

Your last sentence is wrong! And, in itself, is evil. It is ONLY God who can truly conquer evil (Hitler lost WWII because of God. Without God, America and much of the rest of the world would today be radioactive ruins -- the Nazis were THAT close to producing a nuclear weapo). Therefore, prayer for those who do evil things is ALWAYS good and meritorious. Prayers for the conversion of the modernists, including this pope, is not only good advice, but necessary and even required by God.

I've been praying for this pope for a long time - that he leaves the papacy. By his own admission, he's said he's never going to change, and now almost 4 years into it, he's proven that time and time again.

This is not directed at this particular post, but to a great many of them in this thread. Regardless of what we think of Francis' comments and behaviors, we are required by God Himself to treat EVERY person with at least a basic level of decency and respect. That includes Francis. Also, since he was licitly elected to the chair of Peter, he is owed a somewhat higher level of respect and deference due, not to himself, but to the office he holds. He is, after all, until the Holy Spirit leads the Church to remove him, the Vicar of Christ and, therefore, presumably, chosen by Our Lord. It has been said that the priest sex abuse scandal was a chastisement given the Church by God. Francis may be part of that chastisement -- a wakeup call to truly faithful Catholics -- all of us; clergy, religious and laity. The Lord HAS promised a remnant of faithful people, but that faithfulness is not just to the trappings of Catholicism, but to God Himself and living with heartfelt and soul penetrating integrity and devotion the teachings He has given us down through the ages, including obedience to His Will, His Wishes and His laws. Jesus tells us to take the plank out of our own eye before trying to remove the splinter from another's eye. We need to follow that instruction.

Very well said!!

The descent of this papacy into an AliceInWonderland rabbit hole continues.
Two days ago, the Vicar of Christ used the words "coprophagia" and "coprophlia" during a public press interview.
Look up these words in Webster's.
The repulsive meanings of these terms will make you weep for this very troubled priest.
What sort of man talks like this?
Blessed Mother have mercy on him and us on this holy feast day.

What stunned me was that Pope Francis is convinced that people have a tendency for such a perversity. What is wrong with this man's mind?

"I believe that the media should be very clear, very transparent, and not fall prey—without offence, please—to the sickness of coprophilia, which is always wanting to communicate scandal, to communicate ugly things, even though they may be true," he told Belgian Catholic weekly newspaper Tertio. "And since people have a tendency towards the sickness of coprophagia, it can do great harm."----( Pope Francis )

XcuseMe ? 😲 So, His Holiness believes that people are born with some sort of habitual attraction to 💩 ? That's crazy ! Looks like he completely lost his mind . I am sending help immediately 🆘 🚑 🚒 🚓

Since I'm in a particularly charitable mood this evening, I'm going to find a pastoral interpretation of PF's excrement attraction comment, and after careful study and reflection, I conclude that he's talking about those who are habitually attracted to modernist b.s.
There can be no other sensible interpretation, si?

Bovine excrement would have been an appropriate allusion. But to say "people have a tendency" is rather an offensive and general statement, wouldn't you agree?

This statement from the Pope worries me . There is another meaning in the statement as well, that concerns me more.
"which is always wanting to communicate scandal, to communicate ugly things, even though they may be true,"
He says, 'even though they may be true', I think this infers hide the truth, even if it is ugly!! This is the attitude that gave birth to the sex scandals and pedophilia cover-ups which have desecrated God's Holy Altars! By that I mean, these priests have come from abusing a child and then they dare to go to the altar and then abuse the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ. I seriously wonder how The Father can stand this blasphemy any longer. It is truly a heart breaker. It seems to me the clergy have lost the meaning and purpose of the Priesthood Of Jesus Christ and the fact that they no longer belong only to themselves. Prayer is really the only way forward and whatever calamity hits our Earth, can we really dare to complain?? For me I think not.

Goodness gracious ! Does His Holiness really think that it's absolutely necessary for me to know what some of his priests do for " fun " on Friday nights ? Seriously ! 😒👎

The latest outrage from the Papal lips is an insult to anyone with a weak stomach and must make even his most deranged admirers cringe for a few seconds. I know about his deranged admirers - I have several in my parish who seem impervious to evidence and are enraged at any criticism.

http://www.independent.co.u...

As Rod Dreher comments in “American Conservative”

“I know I’m the sort of person Francis would call “rigid,” but I think we could all stand a bit more rigidity from this guy. Whoever thought they would live to see the day when the Roman pontiff gave an interview in which he raised the subject eating poo for sexual pleasure?”

Would that he would just disappear!

Did the Devil play the last card with this pope? Is the world slowly turning back to common sense? Not to long ago Francois Hollande declared socialism to not work.

But the president of France will continue the failed policies.

Liberals all tend towards projection. It is he who is being rigid. Rigidly tolerant to the point of intolerance.

He is SUPPOSED to LOVE his millennial sheep, not imagine them at a Carvery of Poo!

If one accepts all of Begoglio's 'do as I say' dictats without "looking at the other side", wouldn't that make one a Pelagian and rigid?

I can't defend him anymore!
He is just bitter. Because he thought he was hip and inspired from God to attract youth, but it turns out he wasn't inspired by God and his ways simply not work, he has been tricked.
He needs some rigidity himself too, imposed on himself, like I suggest strict fasting on Mondays, for the Holy Angels, and praying to the Archangels to help him out. I don't think he is stupid. I think he's .. how to put it politely... under influence.
I feel very sorry for him because the grip he's under is very tight obviously.

Just as the force of gravity is ultimately irresistible--what goes up must come down--so will the NO ultimately succumb to the force of TLM of the Ages. If the Second Coming doesn't come first, someday the current 50 years post-V2--and however many more elapse before the Church returns to Her sanity--will be looked on by the faithful (clergy included) as a period of gross aberration.

This will not likely happen during my lifetime, nor possibly during those of my children or grandchildren. But it will happen. I have been saying this for many years.

When what I predict comes to pass, a few feckless die-hards and trendies will occasionally trot out the NO to "celebrate": like the pathetic museum piece that it will have become by then.

"ust as the force of gravity is ultimately irresistible--what goes up must come down--so will the NO ultimately succumb to the force of TLM of the Ages"
Yep, reality has a way of showing itself. I am sure all those bishops, priests and laity had big dreams about the Novus Ordo. They now look all feeble and confused, and the new generation (as well as those who held on to the faith) want absolutely nothing to do with them. It's not healthy to be around the sick unless one wants to become sick as well.

PF is insulting everybody including Jesus Christ and the saints, why not the youth? His narcissism motivates him to attack and scapegoat to others. You know who is the father of narcissism?

It's my impression that Pope Francis wants to see the pews empty. He can't stand Catholics and can't stand the Catholic Church. The time for us to appeal to his better nature is long past. You can't appeal to what he doesn't have.

Hmmm...I wonder if any relation to Dr. Scott Hahn? God bless~

I was just thinking the same thing.

If such data exists, I would love to find an accurate ration of TLM Churches that are opening, to N.O. Churches that are closing down (sometimes to be reopened as TLM Churches, I'm sure). So far, I have only attended one TLM Church since it is the only one near me, but one thing I noticed at that Church was how many more young families are there with lots of beautiful little ones wiggling in the pews, as compared to any of the countless N.O. parishes over the years. So, at least anecdotally, it seems that some of the of families and young people who are bailing out of the N.O. Churches indeed finding the TLM.

One of the churches in Reading, England is in a interesting transition period. 900am is the N.O. English Mass with a wide age range, but a heavy emphasis on the Ageing Hippie generation. 1100am Mass is in Latin, courtesy of the Confraternity of St Peter, and attracts loads of large families with young children who come from near and far. Our clueless parish priest (very ageing hippy generation) can't understand why the 1100am attracts young people, including those from the nearby university.

I am so very happy to hear that, William. I am on the slightly younger end of the Aging Hippie generation, and it still is a mystery to me how so many from that era still seem to be stuck in that idiotic '60's-early '70's mental morass. But I think your observation is another strong indication that as my generation passes on, hopefully taking all of its imbecilities with it, so will go N.O. and the Vat II novelties.

In relation to the N.O even these masses are not done fully according to the rubrics set down. They can't even conform to a simple and necessary set of defined actions. It is a spirit of disobedience and pride, it is satanic sabotage. There is an area that concerns me that i have never seen addressed, by the Church. Priests that are straddling both sides of the fence. By that, I am referring to those that celebrate mass and then later celebrate a black mass. This happens and is an ugly fact. I guess if I brought up that subject, I wonder what label Pope Francis would attach to me????????
One other point needing investigation; In Satanic Rituals, pedophilia and sodomy, plus child sacrifice, are seen as sacraments of satanic worship. The abuse that has been uncovered, I know without any doubt, were occurring pre-Vatican11. I think that satanic rituals and the corresponding abuse go hand in hand. This not being addressed means the problem is still probably there. Could more recent cases of abuse be pointing to an undetected network of protected Satanism.