Theres a very thin line between subversive propaganda and outright brainwashing/mind-control. I saw Mike Cernovich tweet out this book by Dr Napoleon Anthony, "Shadow Men: An Encyclopedia of Mind Control", and cant recommend it enough.

http://www.amazon.com/Shado...

That would be the same Mike Cernovich who says he has a lot of lawyer friends and a lot of jewish friend.....and when presented with Alan Shatter, a criminal jewish lawyer who I got removed from his job as Minister for Justice and Equality blocked me.

Mike Cernovich is no friend of men. He pretends to be. But at the end of the day when he was presented with a case of a proven criminal jewish lawyer his response was to block.

And that tells any man everything they need to know about Mike Cernovich. He is a lawyer first....and all lawyers have sworn oaths to the law society which is 100% controlled by the committee of 300.....which you guys are just waking up to...very belatedly I might add.

That is great that you saw that fellow's utubes. I thought he was totally forgotten. He was absolutely right and I wish more people had heeded his warning. Sadly the KGB got to him. They found him because he was on the radio in Canada.
There was a KGB agent whose job was to monitor the radio in the USA England and Canada and report anything significant to his bosses. Well that is how they found him. He sadlly did not last long after that. It would be great if people were more aware of what he said.

LOL! It is almost 110% certain that he faked his death and went on to live a happy life. There was no reason for the KGB to kill him. None at all.

i hope that is true. what he did took tremendous courage.

In another interview I saw he said the KGB came along to have a "chat" with him. He said he made it clear he was no further threat to them etc and that he knew how to defend himself from them.....it was not long after that he "died".

I presume that knowing that the KGB knew where he was that he decided to move on. I presume the KGB did not want him dead because they talked to him. If they wanted him dead they would not have bothered talking.

You simply do NOT know the KGB thugs!Just shows american naivitee!

"A true Christian NEVER fights, NEVER resists, NEVER tries to escape
death. A true Christian longs for death, so that he will meet his maker.
A true Christian is not for this world."

And, yet the Lord Jesus Christ commanded:

"But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another..." (Matthew 10:23)

And there's the little problem of the Apostles and other disciples taking every opportunity (short of denying Christ) to avoid death by running away, hiding, invoking Roman law, etc.

Rather than presuming to preach on what a "true Christian" does, perhaps you should be learning about the One Holy and Apostolic Church ("Eastern Orthodoxy") founded by Christ.

Is this the same church which has traditionally been an arm of the State? Russian Orthodox in particular, whether under Czar or Commissar.

A true Christian NEVER fights, NEVER resists, NEVER tries to escape death. A true Christian longs for death, so that he will meet his maker. A true Christian is not for this world.

We've seen how well this cuckold psychology has worked out in the real world.

A true Christian never fights, eh?
John 2:13-16:
13 The Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 And He found in the temple those who were selling oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers seated at their tables. 15 And He made a scourge of cords, and drove them
all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen; and He poured out
the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables; 16 and to those who were selling the doves He said, “Take these things away; stop making My Father’s house a place of business.”

Luke 11:21-22:
21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. 22 But when someone stronger than he attacks him and overpowers him, he takes away from him all his armor on which he had relied and distributes his plunder.

Christianity is not for the weak.

"After the enemy has been eliminated, the lands have been liberated from intruders and unwanted elements, miscegenation has been averted, freedom has been preserved ...
... how will products be produced and shared between individuals? How should society function?"

Who cares?

"Sorry, honey, I'm not going to fight these men breaking into our home, nor will I call the police, nor will I allow us to try to escape. I mean have you ever thought about how our marriage would function afterwards? Before we go about eliminating problems, we must find another way to exist. I'll be thinking over how we'll exist as I watch... them do whatever they want to you and our daughters."

That's what you're preaching.

"2.PLUS that many of your "brothers" are actually not able to envision a
happy and well functioning society. The onlt society that most can
envison is an extremely conservative one, where life and happiness is
stifled."

Life and happiness flourish in an "extremely conservative" society.

Now, you might object what about the feminists, the sodomites, etc? Aren't women "stifled" by not being able to slut around, murder their unborn babies, divorce their husbands and hold their children as hostages to loot his earnings, etc? Answer: No. Giving women such "freedoms" has only produced miserable beings who must wash away their pain with endless amounts of legal and illegal drugs.

Same thing applies to sodomites, none of whom are born attracted to the same sex, but fall into a "lifestyle" (and deranged way of thinking) that they would have been "happier" without.

With so many echoing the thoughts of Bezmenov, time after time, one can only come to the inevitable conclusion that in 2016, the battle for the USA is lost. Other than a huge event like an alien landing or war or Trump (which I think the demographics have changed so that he cannot win a democratic election), something that causes the masses to seriously rethink their life and philosophy, the USA is a lost cause. Once we accept that fact, what do we do next?

That was an *excellent* essay.

Too late.

I founded the Mens Business Association in 2011 and spread the word widely.

A part of that was a separate jurisdiction globally for men to live in. Our own passports. Own courts. Own laws. Own money. Everything.

Men said no.

Now? There is no possibility that you will displace the criminals in your government.

There is no possibility to create a parallel society as I proposed in 2009 and founded in 2011.

You men should have said yes to the Mens Business Association back in 2011.

You were too busy thinking about how to get laid as opposed to thinking about how to live in to the future.

And now you are going to pay the price.

Funny how you men are just now waking up....5 years too late.

http://www.mensbusinessasso...

What battle for the USA? The battle for the USA was lost in about the 1750s when it became clear that the europeans would kill off the indians.

There has been no other "battle for the USA".

The revolutionary war was staged....the civil war was staged.

The USA has been under 100% communist rule since 1938.

All those of us who have read the pied piers of babylon know exactly how things happened in the USA.

I told men about that book and promoted it years ago....you didn't care to read it.

"Once we accept that fact, what do we do next?"

You live your life until you die.

I offered men a way out that would work in 2010, 2011.

You men refused.

As far as I am aware it is now too late.

I suggest you just enjoy what is left of your life. Maybe join my internet marketing team to make money.

I will be able to get a few men out of the west....but not that many...perhaps a few hundred. Maybe even 1,000. But I am not longer able to, or willing to, attempt to save the lives of the masses of men who live in the west.

I tried...I really did...but you not only refused to listen to me, you hated on me even as I offered you the answer to the question "what do we do next"?

Just ask around and see how many people hated on me from when I was doxxed back in October 2010.

At one stage ASIO (Australian CIA) had TEN AGENTS slandering me all over the web and building web sites to slander me so men would not listen to me.

They were successful. Men did not listen to me. And you lost your chance to remove the criminals in your governments. The committee has used the last 6 years to move up their plans....and if you had been taking notice, like I have been taking notice, you would have noticed that they have been working feverishly to prepare the coming police state and make sure that no one like me has the means to organise any effort to remove criminals from government.

So, what do you do next? You just live your life as you see best until it is cut short in all likelyhood. What else would you do? You didn't fight back when the chances of success were very good....and now you can't fight back because there is no chance of success.

There is nothing new here. All these methods were already stated in the Protocols of the Illuminist Elders a hundred years ago.

Indeed.

And the majority of Bolshevik, Chekka and KGB leaders were themselves tribe members, until a succession of purges weeded them out. Most of them ended up in American and Western Europe, which is why we are in the current situation.

The 'weeded out' became corpses in he Gulag. Even Trotsky got his head adjust eventually.

You kids will still have a hard time to understand the difference between Manichean Illuminists and plain simple Jews who are not the same thing.

The Protocols were written by Illuminists, and by the Rothschilds themselves or someone close to them. Jews in the text of the Protocols means Illuminists and Zion means London.

The Rothschilds were originally Jews but converted to Illuminism.

Blinko23,you're greatly mistaken.Back in 1959 American EXPO/read Nixon's book"SIX CRISIS".During the "kitchen debate"Khrushchev POKED Nixon's chest saying the following"Richard,Your Grandchildren will live under COMMUNISM!You americans VERY naive,we do not need to compete with you economically,nor fight in wars,INSTEAD shall provide you DOSES of SOCIALIM/GD knows they had 6decades of MISERY/until Your Economy crumbles,after that we shall SCOOP you UP like overripe fruit.."-end of quote... Yuri Bezmenov explains HOW he was omplementing this ideological warfare. Plain and SIMPLE.

Can you refer us to a copy of the book? Just about everything is on the Web now days.

if the common american can learn of this then the cia easily mastered this 100x over.
Like we could argue that america subverted the mujahadeen in afhanistan with islamism but were dumb enough to let it backfire

What is reflex control?

Making a move that causes you opponent to voluntarily choose the response you desire which allows you to follow up with another move that levies the death blow.

I do my best to do this when having a go at an SJW.

I do this when trying to get out of a first date...

Propaganda, mind control and gaslighting lose their effectiveness when the subjects learn that there is intent behind it. The library at Alexandria was burned-down intentionally. How far does the rabbit hole really go? How many layers in this cake? The true elite are unseen.

I keep on feeling the need to add to this. It is too late for this civilization. We're done. We're watching biblical prophecy unfold NOW. Europe is the lost 12 tribes of Israel and the hordes have been unleashed upon them. Stop being Dutch Boy. Follow Roosh's advice: get right with God, read the Bible with earnest and come up with a survival plan while there is still time. You may even have a chance to procreate.

"You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

The fundamental problem though is that you can indeed fool some people all the time. Thats what makes propaganda so brutally effective in a democracy. You have a sizable chunk of the electorate under complete control at all times.

"...you can indeed fool some people all the time."

Make that MOST people.

Another factor for subversion: Promoting divorce.

A child is far more likely to be molested by a stepparent or boyfriend of their mother than by their birth father.

Divorce has increased the number of sexual trauma victims who are most vulnerable to feel-good nonsense and severe anger/mood issues.

Crumbling families has led to a generation of molestation victims eager to fight for social justice-- sublimation for their unresolved sexual trauma.

Agree. Easy divorce was one of the first social policies implemented by the Bolsheviks.

Roosh,

Not only no fault divorce....but if a woman accused a man of fathering a child the bolshevicks presumed the womans word was true and took 33% of the mans income for the child via a child support agency.

Sound familiar?

Wealthy men were suddenly impoverished...even men of limited means were also suddenly impoverished....so men stopped working in their millions and this was the real cause of the famines.

Not sure if you know that Stalin decided in 1936 that no fault divorce was so destructive that he repealed that legislation. This was the reason he was "paranoid" about the Illuminati killing him...he broke with their wishes on the issue of no fault divorce.

Stalin and this successors then proceeded to implement no fault divorce in countries like Romania after the war.

In my opinion, one of the reasons that Stalin saw to it that 25 million men were slaughtered in the war was that these men had grown up in the era of no fault divorce and knew the true nature of women and would never go back to the old ways.

No matter how hard later regimes tried to get russian men back in to the marriage slavery system they have refused to go...and the women blame the men as per usual.

I learned all this in 2008 while you were still completely unaware of how the world really worked.

Great work Roosh. Really-great work.

You do realise that Roosh is very late to the table on this one, right?

"Russians are masters of deception, mind control, and subversion. If you study their more modern methods, such as reflex control, which is certainly used by Putin in his foreign policy, you’ll know that Russians have put in their dues when it comes to developing tactics to control others on a mass scale"

If that is so, why do you Manosphere and RV forum guys constantly reference RT and other Russian TV? It is an obvious propaganda.

The self destructive elites are themselves victims of the demoralization. True elites work to preserve their societies not destroy them in order to preserve their parasitical privileges. True elites have a sense of pride of ownership.

As such, the elites here will not survive the changes they bring about. They too will be swept away...hence the self destructive nature of man. They are all implementing their own destruction......like a filthy rich rock stsr or athlete..the final stage of decadence is suicide.

American TV is propaganda.
Russian TV is propaganda.
Iranian TV is propaganda.
Alt right is propaganda.
and on...

Study them all and in between the lies one can discover the truth.

Good stuff and very true. Amen.

Yuri Bezmenov deserves more recognition. He died in Windsor, Canada, in 1993.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

No worries. All we have to do now is sit back and let the FSB subtly indoctrinate us with their new nationalist ideology, right?

Second sentence. First word "He goal..." Should be "His goal"

Fixed!

Living organisms are biocomputers and they can be programmed. When a living organism has been programmed it turns into a living-dead organism. Those who refuse the programming or escape it become alive again, the others keep on being zombies. Later, their bodies will be disposed of.

Hey Roosh, I don't know if you read Vox Day, but he posted recently at AG about a post by John C. Wright's wife concerning another communist defector, Bella Dodd.

http://www.ljagilamplighter...

Quote: "Bella Dodd was an Italian-born American (she was an American
accidentally born in Italy, who grew up there until she was about six,)
who went on to become a teacher. Influenced by the young free thinking
teacher at her college (who later committed suicide, so empty was her
life), Bella became interested in labor rights and was targeted by the
Communists.

To my utter astonishment, at that time, the Communists were a huge, well-organized group with fingers in every single pie.

Because they had many of their members stay secret, not reveal that
they were actually Communists, they could be members of every group.
They formed Fragments, as I think they called them, in every political
party, every labor union. Because if this they knew what all the
different parties and groups were up to, and could organized coordinated
attacks to get their policies across.

In the various teachers unions, their main goal was getting schools
to 1) accept federal aid and 2) emphasize separation of church and
state.

They had as an avowed goal: designing public schools so as to break up the family and make the children idea future Communists.

The Communists attacked the Church, demonized it, and tried to
separate workers from their priests at every turn. Bella saw this over
and over and gave some examples. She also admitted to helping over 1,100
communists get into the Roman Catholic Church, with plans to alter and
destroy it from within."

Jagi Wright also linked to an article from 2014 by Mallory Millet

http://www.frontpagemag.com...

Which contained this interesting scene she witnessed:

"It was 1969. Kate invited me to join her for a gathering at the home
of her friend, Lila Karp. They called the assemblage a
"consciousness-raising-group," a typical communist exercise, something
practiced in Maoist China. We gathered at a large table as the
chairperson opened the meeting with a back-and-forth recitation, like a
Litany, a type of prayer done in Catholic Church. But now it was
Marxism, the Church of the Left, mimicking religious practice:

"Why are we here today?" she asked.
"To make revolution," they answered.
"What kind of revolution?" she replied.
"The Cultural Revolution," they chanted.
“And how do we make Cultural Revolution?" she demanded.
"By destroying the American family!" they answered.
"How do we destroy the family?" she came back.
"By destroying the American Patriarch," they cried exuberantly.
"And how do we destroy the American Patriarch?” she replied.
"By taking away his power!"
"How do we do that?"
"By destroying monogamy!" they shouted.
"How can we destroy monogamy?"

Their answer left me dumbstruck, breathless, disbelieving my ears. Was I on planet earth? Who were these people?

"By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution and homosexuality!" they resounded.

They proceeded with a long discussion on how to advance these goals by
establishing The National Organization of Women. It was clear they
desired nothing less than the utter deconstruction of Western society.
The upshot was that the only way to do this was "to invade every
American institution. Every one must be permeated with ‘The
Revolution’": The media, the educational system, universities, high
schools, K-12, school boards, etc.; then, the judiciary, the
legislatures, the executive branches and even the library system."

Might be two more avenues to explore this rabbit hole, along with MorrisQ's referal of Shadow Men by Napoleon Anthony.

Did these people stand to gain money by doing so...or were they already being paid off by adopting this way of thinking?

Anyone know how, or even WHEN, Bezmenov died?

I once posted a question on Yahoo Answers asking "how did Yuri Bezmenov die?" and I was immediately BANNED.

Bezmenov's Wikipedia entry mentions nothing about his death, and there seems to be nothing anywhere online about it.