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Freee speech • 7 years ago

This whole thing is between the 3 camps in APC....the Atiku/Saraki camp, Buhari/aso rock camp vs Tinubu!!
Yes oyegun was helped to the position by Tinubu, but oyegun has jumped ship to the Atiku/Saraki side of APC! You could see he never clearly condemned saraki during the senate presidency election issue...

All the money that Akeredolu spent was bankrolled by them.....and ofcos Tinubu camp too spent money, but they were sabotaged by Oyegun`s help of the other side to tamper with the delegate list! As a result of that... Akeredolu was able to win! Finish!!

I remember clearly early this year that one prophet decleared in his new year message that APC will split................I thought he was talking rubbish! Now i can clearly see he wasnt! This is the beginning of the end of APC....its starting ti seem like a case of to your tents, o israel!

Jasper • 7 years ago

What goes round comes round. If you believe in the law of Karma, you can see its hand writing on the wall here.

Tinubu highjacked the party that brought him to power in Lagos state from late pa Adesanya and the rest. He took over the structures of the party they laid to form his own party. I think he called it ACN or so. Now, he also sweated to help form APC, and right before his eyes, his subordinates are taking over the reigns of the party. Unfortunately there's nothing he can do.

As he watched the powers of late Pa Adesanya evaporated by virtue of his (Tinubu) manipulation and personal ambition so shall he see his own power disappear in APC. At worst they will pay him in his own coin by usurping all the APC structures then transfer them to a new party, leaving him with the carcass to mourn over. That's exactly what he did to others.

WJasper • 7 years ago

Let's not reduced legitimate democratic contestation to lampooning Tinubu!
The issues are:
Does Oyegun has the right to overrule Appeal Panel on 2:1 in favour of cancelation on the Primary? Does he have power to overrule NWC voting of 6:5 in favour of the cancelation of that Primary.

Innoma • 7 years ago

Politics is a game. Stop crying because you lost. You all are just the same.

Onike24 • 7 years ago

I am personally not concerned with the personalities here. My issue is with your politics is a game nonsense! Sir, with respect politics is about service, it is not some roforofo fight, or worse still a game of ludo and Ayo. We must learn to follow the rules and act devoid of sentiments.

Jasper • 7 years ago

The word 'service' is totally non-existent in the lexicon of Nigerian politicians. None of them is out there to serve. They're all there to steal. Be it Tinubu or whoever. We only watch them devour one another. They don't care about you or anybody for that matter. They scream injustice only when things don't go their way.

Haykins • 7 years ago

Oyegun is giving you the platform to say all this nonsense, you want us to believe that Buhari and your former president are same. If Tinubu did not cry out now, have you forgot what lead to PDP and GEJ downfall? Is not when 16 is greater than 19 at Gov's forum, when 6 can impeach 21 at rivers assembly. Tinubu won't allow this , I bet it.

KBE • 7 years ago

That is the cup of tea of you fans and hailing hailers of APC.

Haykins • 7 years ago

If it is not your own cup of tea, why wailing on forum?

KBE • 7 years ago

You are insincere with you comments. Has Tinubu ever followed any particular rules in his political life?

Onike24 • 7 years ago

How am I insincere?

WJasper • 7 years ago

Another PDP apologist!
Always in support of fraud in and out of their sinking PDP.
Can you just be moral for once.
Is democracy not about majority view again?
Should 1 be greater than 2?
Should 5 be greater than 6?

osta • 7 years ago

Go court simple

gymer • 7 years ago

Ask Tinubu what happened in Badagry LGA election two year ago or so. It is all politics.

KBE • 7 years ago

And you APC apologist?

emekacc • 7 years ago

I agree wt you intoto. Some pdpigs will concoct anythng to destroy Tinubu just bc he supported PMB to win vs their lame god GEJ. Democracr must survive. If PMB remains ungrateful and continues wt mischief vs Tinubu and d country as a whole d end is near. God is in control

KBE • 7 years ago

Go and die

El Chapo • 7 years ago

Does the process that brought Oyegun democratic? If no, Tinubu has no write to complain. This is just a case of an apprentice knowing more than his master. He thought he is the only one that knows how to manipulate.

KBE • 7 years ago

To quote Fashola you can't understand today and proffer solution for tomorrow without first understanding yesterday. Tinubu need to reexamine his yesterday and guide against a reoccurrence of this type of scenario tomorrow.

Seun Martins • 7 years ago

#OyegunMustGo

RISE-WELL • 7 years ago

Tinubu will come to his senses sooner or later, he will come to understand the true color of some of the people he's dealing with...The only thing Buhari wanted was to become President of Nigeria, not interested in any APC party, and that been accomplished...Tinubu will soon realize his great mistakes and by then it'll be too late...His choice of senate president denied, his choice of Ondo governor denied, two zero...what else, is it not game over...If you can think well, the crises that chased many of them out of PDP is far over and just a matter of time, you'll see all of them back to PDP....PDP remains the ruling party....We are watching.

Joshuas2007 • 7 years ago

You are saying nonsense and foolishly...

Guest • 7 years ago
WJasper • 7 years ago

Let's not reduce this core democratic infractions to attacking Tinubu!
Does Oyegun has the right to overrule Appeal Panel on 2:1 in favour of cancelation on the Primary? Does he have power to overrule NWC voting of 6:5 in favour of the cancelation of that Primary.

Guest • 7 years ago
WJasper • 7 years ago

I have got to condemn Tinubu on many issues. I continue to query his action of accommodating many PDP tendencies in 2014. I am justified now seeing the fraudulent behavior of those elements today. Saraki, Dogara and Jubril are now the major problem in APC.
However, we need to stand by what is right all the time regardless of people involved.
The questions again are:
Is 1 greater than 2, is 5 greater 6?

Ugo Gbuzuo • 7 years ago

1 is greater than 2 in certain conditions my brother. (UN security council is a clear example )

'ned • 7 years ago

Was Gbajabiamila in PDP too? Were all the other core APC members of the National Assembly who have been collecting hundreds of millions individually over the years even from their legacy parties in PDP? We can lie to ourselves about who our politicians are because we are members of certain parties, but let us know that as a result of out willingness to hide the truth, our nation will continue to wallow in misery.

KBE • 7 years ago

Without the many PDP tendencies there is no way APC could have won the election. Politics is a game of number.

KBE • 7 years ago

That is not our own business ask your chairman.

Onike24 • 7 years ago

Unfortunately, you are the lone voice here, no one cares that rules were broken, all they care about is that " Tinubu has got his comeuppance( whatever that means). It is sad... Very sad. I don't care much for Jagaban and his cult of personality, but in this instance, if his assertions are correct, then Oyegun must retrace his steps,simples.

KBE • 7 years ago

Are you now denying your camp? You are known hailing hailer.

WJasper • 7 years ago

Does Oyegun has the right to overrule Appeal Panel on 2:1 in favour of cancelation on the Primary? Does he have power to overrule NWC voting of 6:5 in favour of the cancelation of that Primary.

Jasper • 7 years ago

Power does not obey rules. Did Tinubu follow party rules when he installed Fashola and Ambode and Aregbesola and Ajimobi and Oshiomole?

Olisa Michael • 7 years ago

Yes he followed the rule because everybody was given a free chance to canvassed but their inability to produce a consensus candidate agaist Tinubu candidate make them to lose the context; after all they are all Tinubu's Men but this particular one we are taking about is faulty ab-initio, hence there is need to correct the crack foundation

Jasper • 7 years ago

Tinubu never followed any rules. He used stolen wealth to control the people. Now Fashola too has stolen wealth, Amaechi has stolen wealth. They are all using stolen funds to try and seize control of the party. And people are here wailing because they outsmart Tinubu at his own game.

WJasper • 7 years ago

You have not answered the issues raised by Tinubu! Your references are not issues here. Is 1 greater than 2? Is 5 greater than 6? If you condemned PDP then, do you have the morals to praise this democratic infractions here?

Jasper • 7 years ago

That's how Tinubu has been overruling others.

WJasper • 7 years ago

Where is your rule of majority view?
Or you are just supporting this major democratic infractions because Tinubu is involved

Jasper • 7 years ago

Tinubu never allows the view of the majority to carry the day. He imposes his view on the majority. Now the chicken has come to roost. Just watch as his influence withers. Those he brought to the forefront are the people who willl permanently sink him, just as he single handedly sank those who brought him to relevance.

Remember, Abiola worked with all his wealth and influence to deny Awolowo the presidency. Did you see what happened to his own ambition to become the president? What goes round always, without fail comes round. Just watch as events unfold.

otitokoro • 7 years ago

You are right. Like they say in the good old US of A, karma is a bitch and it will eventually bite whoever does wrong in the tush lol.

WJasper • 7 years ago

You just like justifying crime. This infractions can't be right because others have done the same.
You can hate Tinubu, but what is right remains and that should be what we must insist in all Political parties. This was the same aberration that destroyed PDP.
Ordinary Nigerians will benefit if both PDP and APC play by the rule of majority!

Jasper • 7 years ago

And who are the 'we' you referred to? You talk as if APC is deferent from PDP or whatever any name they give political parties. It is the same people moving from one party to another. You come across as someone with vested interest in this matter. What has Nigerians benefited from APC or PDP. Beneficiaries are always same politicians. NASS of less than 2000 people using up 25% of the national budget. Governors diverting federal allocations and states IGR into personal accounts, Tinubu, Saraki, Akpabio etc collecting rents from states they have been governors in. What's there for the masses?

They are scheming themselves to have control over the resources of the masses and your're here mourning because they're outsmarting one another. What's in it for the masses? Absolutely nothing.

WJasper • 7 years ago

You need to go and check my own proposal on restructuring. It is mainly fiscal and structural restructuring. If we can't scrap the Senate, no former governor in the senate should be entitled to any pension in his former state. Security votes must be scrapped. Governors must give public quarterly account on income and expenditures to their people!
I have so much on that template!
Realistically, we have APC & PDP for now. Let's insist they reform their processes so that quality leaders can emerge from them to benefit of the masses.
However you can't say what is wrong is right because you hate either Tinubu or Akpabio!

Jasper • 7 years ago

I don't hate anybody. I have qualified all Nigerian politicians to be thieves. I wonder who among them you can vouch for. They are all therefor themselves and their family and deceiving the gullible mumu populace. Fayose is eating in bukas and bring in cameras to film him. The mumus call him people's governor. They are not paid salaries for 8 months, yet each of Fayose children have over N500 million in their accounts. The same goes for all politicians. Why're mourning for Tinubu or any of them?

I leave you here my friend. Enjoy the rest of your day.

WJasper • 7 years ago

My issue is not with the individual. I am focused on the process. Focusing on the individual will make us get sentimental.
I wish you many great things and a prosperous family, name sake!
Bye!

Ajayi olupono • 7 years ago

Here was the same APC that was meant to bring the needed change in the Country ! When i told Nigerians about a year ago , to get prepared for the impeachment of Buhari , i was called all sorts of names !

Sir Demo • 7 years ago

APC must not split. Rather some disgruntled members will leave the party and join PDP or form a new party. Oyegun handling of Saraki and Dogara issues shocked a lot of people. Ondo is lost to PDP again except a miracle will happen. Akeredolu can never defeat Mimiko political machine. Not even in Owo his home town will he wins.

defash1 • 7 years ago

If Oyegun refused to resign what will Tinubu do??
Leave the party?
Tinubu is fighting higher power which is Buhari, he was bounced from installing his puppets as Senate President & Speaker. He was sidelined from installing Faleke in Kogi, now Ondo has joined. Did he think Oyegun is trying him out?? No, Oyegun is just listening to the real party leader 'Buhari'.

He can cry as he like, Oyegun is going nowhere, after all Tinubu did similar stunt that produced Ambode.

olabisisho • 7 years ago

Good analysis of sad developments that may lead to the disintegration of APC as a national party. I agreed with your submission that John Odigie-Oyegun was surreptitiously acting in cahoot with Buhari who is the power behind him. Sometime ago, a retired Justice of Appeal Court of Northern (Fulani) extraction, said Buhari could have won the presidential election without electoral input from the SW. What he was indirectly saying was that Tinubu could be ignored without consequences. So, the Senate Presidency and the Kogi governorship debacles were in line with northern strategy to sideline, humiliate and demystify Tinubu and consequently strip him of political relevance and reckoning. If he (Tinubu) takes on John Odigie-Oyegun, he will be taking on Presideht Buhari, and when two elephants fight, it is not the party alone that will bear the unpalatable consequences. I hope and pray that the APC leadership will not foolishly repeat the 1964 episode that culminated in the first military intervention, the counter coup and the 3-year civil war.