Hillary was pandering for the black vote in the south when she was saying she wants to continue Obama's legacy. Now that she got it, the Clinton façade doesn't matter anymore.

If you listen to MSNBC and CNN. They think blacks vote in groups, they talk about the black vote 24/7. They are racist, just like Hillary.

What the hell did you just say???

You claim to be so educated, but you can't seem to string together a coherent sentence.

Obama is in denial about this economy, jobs keeps moving abroad and more people stopped looking for jobs all together that's why unemployment percentage makes no sense

Ahem, just who is in denial about the economy? Do you even recall the wonderful shape the economy was in when W left office? On the brink of a global financial failure not seen since the Great Depression. Does that ring a bell? Google it. W had the war in Iraq and Medicare Part D declared "off budget." Cute trick. Try buying a new car and telling your spouse that you can afford it because the car payments are off budget. See how far that gets you. And that is from the "fiscally responsible" Republican party. The Republicans drove the economy into the ditch and now they want the keys back because they are just sure that trickle down will work this time even though it never has in the past. As they say -- you are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts.

Remember when Mitt said he would get the unemployment rate down to 6% by 2016? Well, Obama has accomplished a lower rate sooner. That's the facts.

Wrong lib, the Actual rate is OVER 10% when the number of people no longer eligible for unemployment benefits are counted.
We have never had so many people used up their unemployment benefits and remain unemployed.

And don't forget that most of those great jobs created ate part time, service jobs. DOL may also be double counting jobs, that is 1 person working 2 jobs to make ends meet. I also wonder how many of those counted jobs are being staffed by illegals.

on a lot of that you are correct and guess who is against higher minimum wages, guess which party continues to vote down infrastructure bills, is against opening their states up to medicare increases, is against investing in clean energy solutions. lol, look at the republican party for those road blocks sir.

Your just full of it. Jacking up minimum wages will lead less employment or business closing or more automation to replace worker overhead. Medicare is already virtually bankrupt that's to liberal policies mainly by the Dems. We already have clean energy solution of coal, oil, gas and Nuclear over 3rd would alternatives of dung and wood. And most of the bailout money under BO and the Dems went to the banksters, figure that one out clown.

its more like 14-15%, some say even upwards of 20%
In real numbers there are 91-2 mill. people in the US (end of last year), eligible for work, off the employment records. Whatever that represents in % that is the real number. I can pretty much promise you that it does not come up to 5.4% which is the number Obamba - and his zombie followers take credit for.

"Some say" LOL. You mean paranoid, right-wing, lying lunatics?

From CNBC-

Economists look past the "main" unemployment number (also known as the "U-3 rate") to other indicators in the report that give a more nuanced view of the employment situation. On jobs days, the Bureau of Labor Statistics puts out a slew of figures, each of which measures a different part of the economy.
One of those data points is the U-6 rate. Many experts prefer the U-6 rate to the U-3 rate because it captures those employees who work part time but would like to be working full time.
The BLS defines U-6 as "total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force," plus all marginally attached workers.
In other words, the unemployed, the underemployed and the discouraged -- a RATE THAT REMAINS STUBBONLY ABOVE PRECESSION LEVELS
The U-6 rate also stayed level in December at 9.9 percent.

If you want to compare that, compare that. But keep apples with apples. Don't apply the simpler standard to every President before Obama and another since Obama. That's dishonest.

Just painting an actual picture vs the pretty rainbows and roses that this Administration is painting.

I guess when you choose to believe what you want to believe there really is no point in trying to correct you with facts. Facts are the enemy of the willfully ignorant.

what a ridiculously poor excuse for saying, "I have no argument"!

Never had a better job market. Everyone I know has a job. Stop lying.

you're a government worker and you live in your mother's closet, right?

LOL left home at 17 (right after high School) for College. Got my first "real" job last semester of College. Family... kids then norm. What can i say, i've been blessed. Picked a pretty good career path so that's key... i'm good. So are all the folks that made similar decisions as i did. Its been great the last 8yrs :)... Oh by the way.... I'm buying mom her closet next year. You should too.

Know everyone, do you? What you just expressed was called "solipsism". Meaning, you believe your world is the only one. 3 year olds eventually outgrow it.

LOL stop it... c'mon really? LOL. Thanks for the webster moment though.

Get out of your mother's basement,,,,,,obama is an utter failure and deal whit it ,,,,,,,,and so will you idiotic cllinton will be ,,,,,,,,,,,useless liberal morons with useless idiotic part time jobs ..........WOW .........

What is this weird fascination you guys have with my mom? lol. She's well thanks. Liberal? Well not quite. I see passed this foolishness you "morons" are dealing with in this country. Believe it or not... I've never held a part time job. Hmmm probably explains my shortness for part time internet gangsters like you. Anyway.... i'm happy. Obama is as well. Look back on your life and try to fix your shortcomings. :)

Oh yeah lets change the numbers just because the black guy is in office. Did you calculate the REAL unemployment rate like that under Bush?

lol, that unemployment rate your getting all excited about also includes retired folks and young ones in college both groups are probably not looking for work. lol, typical republican always premature on something.

So, you want to change the way the numbers are counted now? Is that what conservatives have fallen to? Change the rules to suit their fantasy? And I do not see a word about the fantastic economy under Bush. It takes time to recover from that colossal mismanagement. Again, the Republicans drove the economy into the ditch and now they are complaining that Obama hasn't gotten it out of the ditch soon enough. Because they want to try the same thing again. Did you complain about Bush when the economy was hemorrhaging jobs under his watch? I'm guessing not. You can't have it both ways.

That happened on Bush's watch cause Clintoon sighed the repeal of the Glass- Steagall Act and promoting of Carter's Community Reorganization Act. What ever reforms the Bush's administration tried to get enacted got tabled by the Dems. And don't blame the Iraq war on the recession either, it's mostly the Federal Reserve Policies that have caused these reoccurring recessions. the other problem is too many people sucking of the government's teats including well of people, Medicare, Medicaid and badly structured Social Security.

The other problem is the highest business taxes in the world and excessive government spending which Blozo has exasperated. And we have the best crony government money can buy. So it's actually both parties are the problem.

"So, you want to change the way the numbers are counted now? Is that what conservatives have fallen to? Change the rules to suit their fantasy?" Why not? It worked when they got the SCOTUS to decide that it wasn't necessary to count all the votes, thus handing George W Bush his first term, America's first "President by Court-Appointment"...

How do explain home sales, retail sales and car sales? Is the government buying up home with government operative home buyers? Are they buying brand new cars and parking them at malls and home depots around the US to make it "Seem" like everything is ok? They must be huh? Part timers are not buying homes or new cars, so who is?

Here's some math numbers for you to make this picture a little clearer: 10% = 1 of 10 , 15% = 1.5 of 10, 20% = 2 of 10, etc. get that?
Now, when you go to Home Depot or any mall around you do you do a count of the people that show up at these places? Not likely, right?
So, if a mall somewhere in your vicinity normally has a crowd of 10,0000 people, you suggest to say that you would notice a 10 percent drop
in that crowd. If that is what you are saying, I would suggest that you are less than honest. Even at a 20%, the majority of the people that would not notice
the reduction in the crowd. They would be more interested in shopping. Isn't that what you go to a mall to do?
It would take a major reduction in the crowd for it to be noticeable to most. Then again, perhaps you are not most?
And car sales have dropped, don't kid yourself. The fact that they are going up is what it is; it is sales going up - from what it was.
Get things in perspective proper perspective Mike.

hAHAHAHAHA!!! This is lunacy.

Sadly, 93 million are not working at all. Either on welfare, food stamps or SSD. Section 8 is the most in history. So pardon me. When 93 million are out of work but not counted in the unemployment number....well you do the math. The real rate is over 10%. The sickos who support the bully are the ones in denial.

Are you sure its not more like a billion Americans out of work? It seems to me you've left out retirees, toddlers and people in comas.

Idiot. A billion Americans?

I was going to respond to you with a subtle comment, but I feared it would just sail over your head.
Anyway, about my previous comment... since the conversation had plummeted into absurdity, I figured I would just follow suit.

Sadly, your degree from Trump University has failed you again. You can't just make up numbers. Facts are facts and what you have said is simply NOT TRUE. If we can just make up numbers than I will say that Obama has created enough jobs that everyone can have two. Jeez, life is easy when you can just make stuff up.

Those are crazypants trump numbers. The real number is about 40 million.

Ovomit cooks the books. You are delusional.

Amazing how we can put a spin on the facts of an issue, simply by choosing the "right" words and showing obvious lack of memory.
And btw., Obama had NOTHING to do getting the unemployment numbers down - except that he had his Labor Dept. massage the real data
to the point that the data simply "melted away"
Yeah, right, Obama did SO much for us Americans, we're actually hoping that he will step in for his beleaguered
ex-secretary of State. Hhmm, yeah, and you call yourself concerned? I am concerned for you, you must be missing a chromosome or two.

Yes. That's all it is. Obama had the Labor Dept massage the "real data" and if you don't agree with that, you're just putting spin on facts and issues.

BECAUSE THE FIRST ONE WHO SAYS SPIN NEVER SPINS!!!

you are simply confirming my statement about yourself, keep going and you might as well put a lid on your own grave

It's on the same brink now. By year end.

If you believe government fiddled figures I have a range of fairy tales to sell you! Once upon a time...........................

Good lord - 8 years later, you STILL want to Blame Bush? The fact that this is the slowest recovery from an economic recession - in our history - is on Obama and the current congress. Yes, Bush was at the helm when the economy hit the iceberg, but the factors leading up to the bubble and crash in the housing market go back to 1995 when congress voted - and Clinton signed - the bill sponsored by Barney Frank to give government agency backing to subprime mortgages. In 1999, congress passed - and Clinton signed - the bill allowing Glass-Steagall to expire (which allowed commercial banking and investment banking to merge into one entity again). I don't even want to remind you that the Dems were in power in congress from 2006 on, and that Bush had warned congress of the bubble and asked for changes to regulation, since the beginning of his presidency.

As for unemployment, I beg you to learn how the official unemployment rate is calculated. Other responders are completely correct. The rate is determined by counting the number of people with full-time permanent employment and dividing it by the size of the total workforce (called the participation rate). One of the primary ways Obama has lowered unemployment was to remove people from the "total workforce" number, making the total number of people with a job look like a larger % of the population. If you used the same participation rate as was used in the 1980s, for example, the REAL unemployment rate is just about 11% nationwide.

I'm not a fan of Bush, but you are wildly incorrect and so blinded by party politics you can't see that both parties are equally responsible.

He's not in denial. Like Bill and George W. and George Herbert he is doing what his donors tell him to do. All the billionaires they know are happy with outsourcing and illegals.All those guys know how to do is make bad trade agreements between feeding the North Korean Army cause they threaten us.

why does he have to denigh anything the numbers speak for them selves, it is you who is. and it was clinton who signed nafta and took glass tegal away. he is and she is who we thought they were

It's actually quite simple. The unemployment numbers simply refers to people collecting unemployment. If your benefits run out, BAM your no longer considered unemployed, even if you don't have a job! Same if you end up getting 3 jobs to replace the one you lost.
The more accurate barometer is the Workforce Participation Rate according to the US Dept of Labor is less today than the day Obama took office.
Quoting unemployment stats is intended to deceive.
http://data.bls.gov/timeser...