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JR Dowd • 9 years ago

It is possible that this writer didn't believe Jesus was Christ. Lots of religions don't believe it. Judaism doesn't believe Christ is the Son of God nor that he existed. However the Bible did say that in the final days of the world there will be a great deception, Christians will be killed and attacked by all those who wish to hurt them. However, at the second coming, everyone will bend a knee and say God save me... then he will say to those who rejected him... you did not know me in life, I do not know you now. From what I see going on, lots of stuff has come to light to deny Christianity yet NOTHING has come out to disprove any other religion. The ONLY religion people are trying to silence is Christianity. The Islam nation is looking to kill any non islam. This says a lot seeing how the prophecy is coming to light as true. BTW... Christ admitted he was a prophet in the Bible. He also said he was the Son of God. It's up to those who want to believe or not... nobody should be chastised for their belief and those who attack Christians are just as bad.

Marquis Parker • 9 years ago

Just as much as u say Islam is trying to kill all non Muslims is the exact thing Christianity did around 300ad...any non believer of Christianity was slaughtered in the worst way..Christianity was never spread by love or choice...it was always spread with fear just as it tries to make u believe in it with the fear of hell.
The bible also says those who think they will be first will be last
Also says that Satan deceived the whole entire world, and I dnt think that excludes christians bc it sure doesn't say except for the followers of Jesus Christ

JR Dowd • 9 years ago

NO religion is perfect, the wording speaks of a certain lifestyle and standard yet as sinful humans we can't obtain what the Bible says. Some used war and terror to get the message across which if they were TRUE followers would see that is wrong and the Bible does not accept that. However, trashing a religion based on the actions of "so called followers that do the opposite of what the Bible says" is not right either a GREAT example is The Westboro Baptist Church. Americans are fleeing from Christianity and denouncing religion based on some wacked out individuals. To me, that's just giving them a reason to disbelieve. When you say it makes you believe in the fear of hell, that is one opinion. I see Christianity as a chance for redemption through love and peace and treating everyone as my fellow man.regardless what they've done. I also know that in the Bible someone can be saved
by believing in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is the ONLY way through to Heaven and it isn't that hard to do. He will save sinners, he saved a criminal on the Cross. I truly believe that anyone that sins can be redeemed even on their death bed. God does NOT WANT to throw us into Hell, he left that up to us through free will, and yet we blame him for our choices. Heck, if we disobey the law we get thrown in jail, if we disobey our parents we are punished... what's the difference? Why is it OK for humans to discipline but not God? WHY would he want someone in his kingdom who doesn't believe in him and denounced him in life giving everyday a chance to repent? I know many Christians killed others who didn't believe and I know that is WRONG however, nobody forced me to believe and I was given the opportunity to choose by my own parents without question. IF you choose to not believe that is up to you, but how can you be rewarded for your actions when you didn't earn the reward in life... that is what the Bible says. Everyone can inherit the kingdom of Heaven if they try to walk in God's path and believe in Jesus as their savior... that's IT! However we choose to deny him based on the actions of sinful people who are deceiving us which I believe they are and putting actions giving an excuse to disbelieve plus people don't want to live like God they want to do what they want. Revelations is coming true, almost all of it to me further solidifying the truth of Christianity.

Dea • 9 years ago

I don't believe in God or Jesus or anything but I think this also comes to the fact that people also need to think about things that are going on. People don't think for themselves anymore. I'm not trying to bash any religion but I did go to a Catholic school and plenty of the people didn't think for themselves. It was more the Church says it so it has to be right. I don't think that is right at all. Then there are plenty of people who preach but are just hypocrites. I think people themselves should know to care about one another because that is called empathy. Then there is also the fact that people need to start accepting views of others, now more then ever. If you took the time to read this then thank you. Namaste :)

Anemona Popescu • 9 years ago

Makes me sick...to see narrow minds. The TRUTH is that you guys...haven't changed a single thing from the dark age till today. Yes, you're not burning and boiling people anymore... but not because you're a group of good and wonderful guys.... it's just because we have human rights and in some countries, we take these rights seriously. The moment you will have the opportunity... you'll do the same. NO doubt!

Now... what Christianity is promising is outrageous....if you think about it. There we go with their reason: therefore, if I am not a believer, I will never go to heaven... even if I lived a moderate life. BUT.... if you're a murderer, a child rapist or you tortured humans or animals... all you have to do is to join these Christianity cult, confession, regret and not repeat the dead.... and there you go...you're forgiven and you have your chance to heaven. Because...like J.R. Dowd here says... anyone has this chance.

How twisted a mind can be to find comfort in the idea that any degenerate can go to heaven?:)) How stupid should I be to find this moral, ethic or even fair?
However, the bad news is that more than 90% of religious people are stupid...so you can tell them any story. They have learned not to question, not to ask, not to doubt. They will also give large amount of money to the "spiritual leaders" ... regardless of the idea that true spirituality and money have nothing in common.

The really bad news for you guys...is that we are not all stupid. And I think is the time for a new era... free of stupid superstitions and religious hate. They only did bad things...and they will do them in the future, if we let them. If we want to save ourselves, only science and technology will do it.

Let these people to return to the dark ages, where they belong... and let's put our energy into a new philosophy for a tolerant world, a green energy world... and especially for a world without fear.

Cody Slavinski • 9 years ago

Human beings are !00% proof that god is real!What other creature on earth has freewill? NONE!!! yes any one can enter the kingdom of god! Now with that being said you can't just kill and rape etc..then say I repent or forgive me and go to heaven. You must truly be remorseful and with all your heart and soul believe that GOD IS LORD,KING OF KINGS CREATOR OF ALL MAN AND WOMAN KIND AND KNOW HE LOVES YOU AND ALL HE WANTS FROM YOU IS TO LOVE HIM BACK! ONE more thing. Yes there are horrible Evil people and things that happen to innocent kids for example. Now if there is evil out there true evil then that itself is proof of god! and when people go through or experience true evil or some one hears that story they believe that god is real right away or start to soon after.

sagbotgamot • 9 years ago

1st, i don't believe humans are a creature. they are a product millions of years of biogenesis, the most intelligent of them all so far according to humans themselves. being intelligent, it's brain can do so many things... it can invent and re-invent things for his purpose and satisfaction...like cars, MP3, fruit salad, hubble telescope, higgs bossom, ICBMs, etc.. its mind can also produce various imaginations like vampires, virgin mary, vishnu, zeus, dwarves, angels, yeti, demons, transformers, jehovah, batman, allah, wolverine, and the most popular of them all.... jesus christ.

shameonyou • 9 years ago

exactly, magic mushrooms was the thing back then, i did halucinate someone when i did some, maybe thats where they get their fake god.

shameonyou • 9 years ago

and when youre desperate and cant have any help from anyone, why not ask from someone above LOL

shameonyou • 9 years ago

what rank are you in the sheep herd.

Urbane_Gorilla • 8 years ago

Yep...2 headed cows, paraplegics, autistics, cripples, the blind..They all prove that God exists, is benevolent..and perfect in his construction!

RobTay1963 • 8 years ago

LOL, I am not sure if you are an atheist pulling a funny one people or if you are a serious Christian. But evolution shows that as one species developed higher motor skills and survival skills it would kill off the nearest creatures below themselves. Lots of animals have high intelligence, Parrots choose their mates and mate for life, that sounds like free will. Chimps have been seen simple tools like a knotted tree branch as a hammer, or a stick as a digging tool to find bugs in hard to reach spots, and dolphins have a complex language, so much in fact that we can not decipher it. We have learned mating calls, and danger or food calls of many creatures though. How do you know they don't have freewill to choose their mates, have sex, eat and play when they choose. It looks like we stupid humans don't really have free will, if we want to eat and stay out of the cold we have to work and answer to our bosses and the government, not sure I would call that free will. LOL. But all joking aside If one really reads the bible with the understanding that without the Old Testament the Jesus story makes no sense, and then says after reading the OT that he is a loving god is indeed a psychopath. Start with Judges 11:29-40. Then reread the Flood story only picture the children and the babies, and the pregnant women ( god doesn't believe in abortion). Then read the end of Exodus, and read Joshua, see all the atrocities God tells his People to commit. If you can reconcile with that god and say oh well but he got nicer and sent his son to die for us. ( do you really think human sacrifice is OK?) I mean no reasonable person should. And to say well that was the way it was done back then, so what this is god certainly the being that created everything should not just hold to the morals of the time, but should have morals far superior to even the people alive today, where the average human knows that burning witches, and torturing those who don't believe as you do, or stoning Disobedient children, Homosexuals, or any other nonviolent person for a choice that really affects no one but them is wrong. Let alone torturing someone and nailing them to a tree, How sick and morbid is your god even in the (nicer ) new testament.

Ron Smith • 8 years ago

My house cat has more free will than you do. And more personality. You are a brainwashed, mindless automaton.

obi1canblome • 8 years ago

Animals have free will. It's the humans that cage them

nursingaround • 9 years ago

The history of Europe since the 18th century has been the story of successive attempts to find alternatives to God as an object of worship, among them the nation state, race and the Communist Manifesto. After this cost humanity two world wars, a Cold War and a hundred million lives, we have turned to more pacific forms of idolatry, among them the market, the liberal democratic state and the consumer society, all of which are ways of saying that there is no morality beyond personal choice so long as you do no harm to others.

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

No religion is perfect. Some used terror and war to get their message across...blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

So you know the utter and completely depraved history of your psychotic religion of hate, genocide, death and destruction? So you give apologies for how your bloody religion was built, then become the utter and complete hypocrite that you are by condemning Muslims for doing what Christians have done?

No wonder why I, who once went to Seminary to become a minister of this religion, walked away in disgust...and became an Atheist. People like YOU, ignorant, self-righteous, heads up their butts loser hypocrites like YOU drove me away from this religion.

nursingaround • 9 years ago

In the last 100 years, more people died at the hands of aetheists than the rest of history combined - Stalin, Mao, Hitler, plus a whole lot of other despots. Whatever happened to the intellectual depth of the serious atheists, the forcefulness of Hobbes, the passion of Spinoza, the wit of Voltaire, the world-shattering profundity of Nietzsche? Where is there the remotest sense that they have grappled with the real issues, which have nothing to do with science and the literal meaning of scripture and everything to do with the meaningfulness or otherwise of human life, the existence or non-existence of an objective moral order, the truth or falsity of the idea of human freedom, and the ability or inability of society to survive without the rituals, narratives and shared practices that create and sustain the social bond?

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

Despite how often Christian apologists try to argue that Adolf Hitler is
an example of the evil caused by atheism and secularism, the truth is
that Hitler often proclaimed his own Christianity, how much he valued
Christianity, how important Christianity was to his life, and even how
much he was personally inspired by Jesus - his "Lord and Savior." There
is plenty of evidence that he was critical of Christian churches for
seeking independence from the state, but his vision of "Positive Christianity" was significant to him.

nursingaround • 9 years ago

The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the title, _Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.

All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:

Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)

10th October, 1941, midday:

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

14th October, 1941, midday:

The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)

Rest Bains • 8 years ago

Really ...Such a misinformed person to even imagine Hitler believed in anything but himself... He was a complete psycho. GOD IS LOVE.

Frank LaFerriere • 8 years ago

Misinformed? Yeah ok. God is love? Yeah your God loves to slaughter....why he loved humanity so much? He supposedly wiped them out with a great flood.

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

First off get it right. Hitler was in fact a Christian. Would YOU like me to post his own words, from his speeches and Mein Kampf writings to prove you wrong?

As for Stalin and Mao? It wasn't their atheism...it was their anti-theism that set them against the churches and religions. They wanted to control the population and realized they could not share that control with the religions. So they got rid of the religions.

Anonymous Jerk • 9 years ago

Please do post those hitler speeches and quotes, because your statement seems very naive, you are taking a politician at his word when speaking to the public, seriously? What's wrong with you?

Rest Bains • 8 years ago

Sorry to say that calling yourself a Christian and actually being one is not the same thing. HITLER WAS MAD.

nursingaround • 9 years ago

Instead of hating christianity (you may deny it, but you certainly sound like you do) try being an educated aetheist, and have a look at this rather interesting perspective - but if you only like to look at one side of an argument, then ignore this link

http://www.spectator.co.uk/...

Mitchell Short • 8 years ago

The problem is. if religion is made by these perfect beings it should be perfect. Yet humans can find the flaws in it.

RobTay1963 • 8 years ago

The following was cut and pasted from your own comment, please come back when you have actually read the bible and can no longer make this statement. Some used war and terror to get the message across which if they were TRUE followers would see that is wrong and the Bible does not accept that.

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

One last conversion tool of the hundreds Christians used to convert the Pagans and others. This is drawing and quartering. See Christians believed that if someone would not convert, then death was the only option to save their soul. They felt if they murdered the body, the soul would be saved.

Jeff McIntyre • 9 years ago

This was done by the Roman Catholic Church not Christians if you want to qoute stuff do a little research on who what where and when good start read foxes book of marters

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

No it was done by all Christian denominations. Both Roman Catholic and Protestant. Why they certainly were not Roman Catholics in Salem Mass when they were putting to death the "witches" there now were they?

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

Here is another "conversion" tool used by Christians upon people who rejected their message of love. They would tie the victim upsidedown and slowly, VERY slowly saw through the body.

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

Another "conversion" tool Christians used was called the Dunking. They would bind the victims arms and legs together and put heavy stones in their pockets and throw them into a body of freezing water.

If they drowned...that actually meant they were a Christian...but if they swam? That meant Satans minions were holding them up and they were taken out of the water and executed.

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

Here is another "convert" tool used by Christians to convert the Pagans and others. It is called the Pope's Pear. They also used this on homosexuals. They would fill it with a freaking hot coal, shove it up the "converts" butt and slowly open it, releasing the coal into their rectums. They also used it on females to convert them...but most of those converts died from their "conversion therapy of the Christians" due to it ripping and shredding their vaginas.

jhmdeuce • 9 years ago
Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

Wikipedia is YOUR assertion that this is BS? Wiki that ANYONE with a computer and internet connection can go to that site and edit any entry on it?

Sorry loser, I used actual Roman Catholic and other church histories and their records in my research of this and once those were written? You cannot change them like you can on wiki lol.

jhmdeuce • 9 years ago

Bullshit 3.

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

No loser....truth.

Jeff McIntyre • 9 years ago

Actually these and many other horrible things were done by the Roman Catholic Church there are multiple sources including from the vatican that back thiese claims up a good source is foxes book of marters for a start the RCC dose not follow the teachings of Christ in fact there relgion goes aganist the Bible

jhmdeuce • 9 years ago

Bullshit.

Jeff McIntyre • 9 years ago

By their own admission in records kept by the vaticin

jhmdeuce • 9 years ago

Bullshit.

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

The only bullshit I smell around here is you. You can claim BS all you wish, especially seeing that ANYONE can edit a wikipedia link....I would rather use other sources for my information....instead of being an idiot like YOU to attempt to prove I am speaking BS by using wiki lol.

jhmdeuce • 9 years ago

Bullshit 2

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

No loser truth. Heck even I can go into Wiki and change or edit what every I want to.

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

See this is just one of the things Christians used to convert others. It is called the Judas Chair. 1,000 to 1,500 spikes, that embed into the skin of the "convert" but closes around them so they do not bleed out. Then for added conversion power, when these chairs were made of steel? Christians would light a fire under the seat and laugh and scream in joy as their "convert" shredded their flesh trying to escape the Hot Seat.

jhmdeuce • 9 years ago
Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

Nope, it is not bullshit and wikiepedia does not count for research loser. See anyone can edit information on Wiki...and put in wrong information. I use actual church historical records for my research, including the Malleus Maleficarum.

Now go play in the corner....you Christian apologist for murderers and torturers.

jhmdeuce • 9 years ago

Bullshit

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

No....even an idiot like YOU can go to Wiki and edit it lmfao.

Frank LaFerriere • 9 years ago

Yup....wiki...where even brain dead, outhouse dwelling, second grade homeschooled drop outs because they were being raped by their teachers....like you can edit Wiki.