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Zaphod Smith • 10 years ago

Mr Love needs to reread the Constitution.. My guess is he hasn't read it yet period.

Olen Thomas Giles • 10 years ago

my guess is he only knows of the word...probably thinks america is a democracy too...what a dumbass

Zaphod Smith • 10 years ago

I'd be willing to bet that about 80% of Americans think the U.S. is a Democracy, and not a Republic. They, of course, would be wrong. I would also be willing to bet that, that goes up to almost 100% in Congress.

Olen Thomas Giles • 10 years ago

one word...liberalism :-(

Ian Da Ous • 10 years ago

There's nothing wrong with liberalism, our founding fathers were liberals. The problem is with progressive democrats that want to use force to spread their ideas. Same problem with conservatives that want to use force to spread their ideas.

Olen Thomas Giles • 10 years ago

actually if you knew anything about politics you would realize they were more in line with libertarianism as for modern politics...but at the time...they were non affiliated because the only political party in america at the time was very pro british crown

Marlene Schultz Parlak • 10 years ago

You have no clue of the differences. Please do not go to the polls.

ISENTRY • 4 years ago

BS... NO THEY WERE NOT... Does anybody know and/or research history... and FACTS..?! stop regurgitating Communist propaganda... it makes you a Commie - like it or not! PEOPLE stop acting like you know - (when you don't) - and defending it like it is the truth!!!!

steven2067 • 10 years ago

please liberal/conservative they are the same. both oppressive, forcing their views upon others. the truth is in the middle.

Olen Thomas Giles • 10 years ago

i dont agree...libertarianism is now true conservatism...but what is traditionally considered ''conservatism'' is just liberals masquerading as conservatives

Spychiatrist • 10 years ago

Wrong! Libertarianism is not always conservative. I know many Libertarians that advocate for open borders and NO borders at all. I'd call them liberal globalists personally.

I'd say often Libertarians are very liberal in their ideas.

steven2067 • 10 years ago

ok, thanks for correcting me. as you can see some of us are trying to learn. ;)

TheJustAvenger • 10 years ago

Wrong

Guest • 10 years ago
steven2067 • 10 years ago

no Sir.
my point is, if one goes to far to the left or right, they end up 180 degrees across from freedom. which is oppression. sadly some don't even see it.

onebigelf • 10 years ago

You're on the wrong scale. It isn't "conservatives" on the right and "liberals" on the left. It's Anarchists on the right and Totalitarianists on the left. Supporters of a Constitutional Republic are the moderates, smack dab in the middle. Just enough government to protect the rights of the individual. No more.

steven2067 • 10 years ago

and this changes my point how?

Egadsno • 10 years ago

I used to say I was rooted in the right but lean left, because of my classical liberal views as a paleoconservative (old right) that believes in limited govt (civil rights & fiscal conservatism), non intervention, ect. Over the years though I see this is an inaccurate distortion of politics. I advise you to think of it not just left right on an X axis but add a Y axis for up and down. Namely between totalitarianism and liberty.

The only thing that ever truly separated the left and the right is the basis of our democratic republic, States vs federal rights.

Evan B. Case Jr. • 10 years ago

It is a Democratic Republic. Don't just say half the story.

Freespirit • 10 years ago

NO it is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC....are you American?

If so where did your go to school???

EXAMPLES of DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICS are .Korea and the Congo and many other FAILED or FAILING republics.

Democracy, bluntly-speaking, is RULE by the MOB and is why Democracies are not only a farce but FAIL

Ian Da Ous • 10 years ago

the fact that 'we vote' for our leaders that create the laws, makes it a constitutional democratic republic :P

Psychonaut23 • 8 years ago

True Democracy only works with an informed and intelligent voting populace. Cognitive dissonance opium gets us where we are. To be fair...I do think a true Democracy would have all kinds of smarty pants who hated each other and might get more creative than the Unibomber.

Freespirit • 8 years ago

Democracy is a farce for fools

Evan B. Case Jr. • 10 years ago

No democracy is, a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting. Where did you go to school? Did they teach you to just make up definitions? Also they should have taught you that just because Korea and the Congo are called democracies and republics they are the farthest thing from it. So where did "YOUR" go to school....

Ian Da Ous • 10 years ago

you're both wrong... and right.

Zaphod Smith • 10 years ago

I suggest you find the word Democratic in any of the founding documents, used to describe the US. You might check the pledge of allegiance too, it says.. "and to the Republic for which it stands.." Not. Democratic Republic for which it stands.

Evan B. Case Jr. • 10 years ago

Democracy, a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Republic, a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

Democratic Republic, a form of government embodying democratic principles and where a monarch is not the head of state.
Okay so, the united states IS a democratic republic because, we elect representatives to vote for us democratically. The word democratic does not have to appear in order for it to be democratic, and usually if the country has the name, "democratic", or "republic", its usually quite the opposite, for example the democratic republic of the Congo.
The citizens elects officials, republic. Those officials vote on issues regarding government, democratic. Therefore our country is both democratic and a republic.

Zaphod Smith • 10 years ago

Our political voting system is Democratic. Our country is a Republic. In a Democracy the 51% have the say over the 49%. In a Republic the law (Constitution) protects the individual person from the mob rule of Democracy. I suggest you read the Federalist Papers.

Evan B. Case Jr. • 10 years ago

I suggest you read Article I-V of the constitution and research the definition of the words you so flagrantly throw around. Nothing in my searches has come up stating a democracy requires the 51% over the 49%. Please validate your information by citing your source.

Here's my source's,
http://www.oxforddictionari...
http://www.merriam-webster....
http://www.uiowa.edu/~c0301...

Zaphod Smith • 10 years ago

http://capitalismmagazine.c...

http://www.1215.org/lawnote...

http://www.wisegeek.com/wha...

http://www.wnd.com/2005/01/...

Links is a great idea.. less typing.. Oh.. I almost forgot..

http://www.foundingfathers....

Oh and take a peek at Article IV - IV of the Constitution.
Enjoy.

Evan B. Case Jr. • 10 years ago

I also like, how on most of the websites you listed, half of the page was trying to tell you something, while the other half was trying to sell you something. That just screams credibility.

Zaphod Smith • 10 years ago

Based on that "logic" (if you can call it that) this page screams credibility as well.

Evan B. Case Jr. • 10 years ago

Well for one things there is one ad on this page, half of your page was ad-space. Hmm...I wonder why the mayo clinic, Scientific America, and just about every other reputable source reframes from doing that. Probably because it makes you look like you have mixed motivations and that's not exactly what you want when obtaining reliable information. I also have to ask, do you think this page is credible? Because it is not, none of my college professors would even consider taking this as evidence. It may be true but it is not credible. Oh and you stated I merely posted definitions. While I did state definitions, I would say that was relevant since you were stating America is not a Democracy. We should probably start by stating the definition of Democracy, which America falls in.
Democracy is not a term that must remain by itself, America is a Constitutional Democratic Republic, say what you want but you will be wrong.

Zaphod Smith • 10 years ago

Rotf.. I could agree with you.. But then we would both be wrong. No point in that.. Bye now.

nikondvr • 9 years ago

I forget if it was Jefferson, Madison, or which founding father it was, but after coming out from signing the US Constitution a lady asked him what type of government they had given us. His answer, a democratic republic, if you can keep it.

Zaphod Smith • 9 years ago

It was Benjamin Franklin, when asked “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?” his reply was “A Republic, if you can keep it.” Not what you guessed at.. But thanks for playing anyway.

Coonhound • 8 years ago

Jefferson Davis

Zaphod Smith • 10 years ago

Glad you liked it. Using that "logic" (if you can call it that) I guess this page we are posting now isn't credible..

Evan B. Case Jr. • 10 years ago

I will begin my rebuttal by pointing out that none of your sources are considered 'credible'. My sources are both respected and credible, also you stated that I should read article IV - IV? I should also state that it is properly stated, 'Links (are) a great idea', not is a great idea.
So please, post some credible sources stating your point.

Zaphod Smith • 10 years ago

Your "sources" are only dictionaries. You asked for sources not definitions.. And I would hardly call the Federalist Papers not credible.. But that's okay you believe what you want.. Sorry my grammar isn't up to your standards guess that makes us even.

Marlene Schultz Parlak • 10 years ago

Founded as a Republic, adding any word doesn't make it so. Yes we have what they call democratic elections but the country is only a Republic.

Guest • 10 years ago

Actually, it is a Constitutional Republic as are each of the states.

Evan B. Case Jr. • 10 years ago

And you are right, it is both a Constitutional and Democratic Republic. Because our officials are elected democratically though constitutional regulations.

CommonwealthPatriot • 10 years ago

Not all of them are states :)

paulreverewannabe • 10 years ago

olen thomas giles you are mistaken i'm afraid. america is a democracy. democracy is socialism. go read the book democracy is socialism. it's older than you are. and yes humans defined democracy as socialism over 100 years ago. unfortunately you have just been a victim of the governments war on vocabulary manipulation. this is a war which has attempted to redefine words that already had valid definitions and to redefine them with false definitions in order to manipulate and destroy your ability to accurately comprehend. the war on words also helps the u.s. government commit illegal acts with a "legal" appearance in a court of law where words with meaning are compromised to benefit the oppressor.

Not Crazy • 10 years ago

Your'e crazy.

Wolve Rine • 10 years ago

Agent Love needs to have an additional asshole added
to his forehead.

steven2067 • 10 years ago

sounds like he already has one.

Joshua Graham • 10 years ago

Well I have yet to see a picture of him without a hat :D

Joane Pappas White • 8 years ago

MR. LOVE? You mean Daniel Love. The Butcher of Blanding? The freaking psycho-cop that was turned loose on the innocent citizens of southeastern Utah in 2009 by the BLM to play army? That Daniel Love? He should be in federal prison and instead the Obama lackies directing the BLM promoted him so he could play again with the Bundy family. The difference between Blanding, where his actions led to the death/suicide of three people, and the Bundy Ranch was an incredibly professional, well-trained and disciplined militia that made Love look like the psychotic bully he is.