I have never seen a single person who was hired into a high level position with an online degree and I have seen CEOs with no degree. :-)

Brandman University has been offering fully online and blended (both online and classroom) MBAs since 2010. The university, which is part of the Chapman University System, designed its MBA program specifically to accommodate the schedules of working adults and with the latest research into online learning in mind, unlike older MBA programs that may be attempting to duplicate classroom programs. Brandman has consistently ranked near the top of national rankings for quality online
education.

We are living in what will one day be looked back on as a great transition. This is only the beginning. What online instruction lacks in socialization it more than makes up for in focus and thinking time. Now to fill the social vacuum of like minded students and associates. Some of that can also be done online but there has to be a way to meet and be with flesh and blood people for interaction. That may be the next challenge. And I don't mean a bar for drinks. I mean real contact, real people, real interaction, real sharing of information and knowledge which by the way doesn't often happen at brick and mortar schools either.

Folks tend to forget that the primitive superstitions of atheism are the core tenet of the larger counter-Christian religion of marxism.

Computer based instruction is an innovation whose time has come. Study after study has shown cbi to be superior to the classroom. Educational software, while very good today, has the potential to be much more effective as markets open up and funds become available for development. What this means is that anyone with the will to learn and access to an internet connection will be able to get a quality education at a fraction of the current cost. Unfortunately, this trend has been consistently opposed by most brick and mortar institutions and organized labor. Even so, it is such a compelling solution that it can not be ignored. It is a very good thing and long overdue.

Absolutely, gordo. The cost/benefit of the traditional learning method has been increasingly unsustainable. Something has to give. Since benefits are not going to skyrocket, the costs have to plummet. Took awhile for the tech to come to the rescue, but finally it has started. Long way to go, but this trend is unstoppable.

Look for the cost to go down, down, down until it's almost a freebie, like for almost every other source of info on the internet. The marginal cost is almost zero, and people have gotten used to accessing it for free.

So, how to play the winners and losers? ISTM there will be a concentration of big winners---perhaps a 1/2 dozen, as the winning software/platforms can just be rolled out to the world, and a multitude of losers. Almost all the bricks and mortar, super-high cost institutions, their suppliers, employees, and obligations

We see a multitude of examples in which the web has rendered time and place irrelevant. Telecommuting, retail purchases, banking, all sorts of information gathering, etc, etc.. It is my sincere hope that within a generation, computer based education will take its place among the most significant accomplishments of the digital age.

We’re glad to see this information being shared
with a broad audience. However, we do want to correct one point – in fact, the Indiana
University Kelley School of Business was the first of the top-ranked schools to
have a full online MBA. Kelley Direct Programs launched in 1999 and has over
2,000 graduates with an average salary increase of over 30% at graduation. Over 65% of our graduates report that they earn a promotion within 3 months of graduation. We’re happy that other top-ranked schools
have joined us in this important arena.

$89,000.00......for an online degree....Here's a few lectures..read a few books...write some reports....What a ripoff. It's nothing more than a giant networking opportunity. when you're paying that much for a degree.

Just let parents know the "professors" are just running their PowerPoint slides year after year without changing a thing, that it is pretty much the end of the college today!

similar to a university, mba school is a screening process. which is why the top schools garner more respect since they attract the smartest/richest/successful candidates. for me, the networking aspect is prolly the most important since everyone you meet will have at least 1 of these checked off the list. i dont think youd be able to do this online, but the condensedly broad learning aspect is prolly similar/useful.

I have a degree in Business Administration and will say that most business degrees are all but useless. Their only use is a bullet point on a resume. In my experience, either a person understand business or they don't. Certifications (Series 7, CPA, CFP, etc) are what really provide opportunites

Online MBAs, like Joe B said, are half the value. Paying $133,000 for an online degree is very, very profitable for Syracuse, but is no where near a traditional MBA at Syracuse (which means it is very, very expensive for you). Frankly, the MBA and JD are dead, RIP. Get a rock solid certification like a CPA or CFA, they're tough, but worth their money (note: a CPA probably requires a M.Acc in your state). People are paying $100k + for MBAs and JDs that are a toss up with respect to their worth (50-50).

ive got news for you......online degrees carry half the weight.....period

certainly the founder of the school referenced above would insist otherwise.....but what ould you expect him to say?

this is a really poor investment for anyone to make......if you cant invest the time to interact with people and do it the right way...what does that say about you?

if an online MBA shows up on your resume.....hiring managers see you automatically as a person who seeks out shortcuts

online education has a poor reputation that it fully deserves.

Actually I am very familiar with UNC's online MBA and there is not asterisk and also no notation that you completed the MBA online. This is what the founder was talking about. I believe he said "Preconceived notion" about online programs. Just recently I saw that UNC's MBA program is #1 in the country. So it can't be half the weight if it's beating "Full weight" programs.

I lived in Tennessee and took classes in Oregon. No notation that this was online is needed.

Online MBA today is where the part time MBA was 10 years ago. Over the next 10 years I would imagine online education would become more mainstream with active recruitment from the top companies

My daughter received an MS as a nurse practitioner online, and saved a bunch of money as opposed to being on campus. She quickly got a high paying job with no negative aspect to the online method. I will bet that most college degree programs will be available online, and will be the rule in 20 years.

true....but she still had to do the clinicals at an approved hospital....thats a huge difference from programs that offer the complete degree without ever seeing your face.

and since she was already a nurse practitioner....there's a question as to how much the masters actually bumps her salary. I know two nurse practioners who make 150K with their original degree.

She was able to do the clinical work at local clinics, and local hospitals, instead of having to drive across the state. Only had to go to campus twice for a day each. She was not already a nurse practitioner. In fact she went from a hospital program RN to MSN, bypassing a bachelor's degree altogether.

well considering many of these college grats with a bs degree from a 4 year college after $50,000-$100,000 in debt is working on min wage jobs and living with their parents doesn't say a lot about the weight of these degrees from a 4 year college either.

This is how crazy a business degree is...you could run a lemonade stand and learn the stuff. Outside of accounting most of the stuff are theories or concepts given an acronym.

One thing is good if you know a theory or concept you can apply it to your situation appropriately. Because some ideas dont fit into your business.

89,000 for an online MBA , I wouldn't hire a fool that spent that much to go to what is nothing more that what we used to call "a correspondence school "

But if that "Correspondence school" is the Actual University and Actual Professors from that University, can it still be called Correspondence? How would you know if a "fool (which is an oxymoron for someone seeking a masters degree)" Got an online degree if there is nothing on their degree that notates it?

It's going to take time for the current hiring management structure to
be replaced with the new breed who have come up though this system. You
can see the same thing in the work-remotely model. The older managers
are still fearful of not being able to see and feel that work that gets
done, the younger managers are open and use it as a competitive
advantage. All new things take time, the early adopters will be ready
to take full advantage as the the new-norm comes online.

I was just going to say that exact same thing.

Yes, I'm sure you've got tons a data to back that claim up. I see the Brits are pumping out more Einsteins over there. Cheerios

Some slightly older, non-traditional, and graduate students may prefer an online education at a slightly discounted price, but until online universities have their football team play in a bowl game or have their basketball team in the NCAA tournament, most brick and mortar universities with vibrant athletic programs will be just fine.

Most of the tuition of Ivy Leagues goes towards providing exclusivity and networking opportunities - and some for education

Once Watson earns its MBA it's all over.

I love it. What is College or what has it become? Sure maybe, I say maybe you can improve on your social skills and drinking skills or drinking and social skills. But if I really want to learn do I need class rooms and dormitories?. Sure there are some advantages but just look at all the time wasted. So if you want to pay 10's of thousands of dollars to party ok but if you want to learn I for on prefer a little privacy and time to think.

The educational systems have been changing for over a decade now, but the tradition attitude has remained the same. This type of antiquated thinking works well for the brick and mortar schools as its disdain towards new changing educational market dynamics. Those of you who are quick to devalue an online education due America a great disservice, while many of you continue to outwardly rationalize that an online education is rather worthless. The rest of the world is utilizing the interest for such ambitions as to further their countries imperatives to remove America from its world dominance throne. You people spend way too much time with your distorted opinions destroying the infrastructure of a new dream, progressive society, and the idea of quality online education by subscribing and vocalizing outwardly to such discriminating tactics which keenly state what is considered suitable or unsuitable institutional education and especially as it relates to online education. Such classifications are counterproductive and the idealistic schemers behind such a focus objective seek to have the public exclusively centered on specific institutions of higher learning whilst openly discriminating against the former. This amounts to unequivocally differentiating and segregating people from obtaining employment opportunities or career advancements whilst putting the economic opportunism in their favor of the select few who do attend such institutions deemed worthy by those same selected few pseudo elitist. It basically amounts to a neatly repackaged form of discriminating tactics from yesteryear just with a newborn condescending approach.

wow...smoked a lot last night didnt ya?

you cant replace personal interaction with online shortcuts

the online degree has half the value in the business world....

thats why it costs half as much

good luck running your online MBA program

Joe, personal interaction leads itself to a matter of subjectivity. Most people who enter into a MBA program are working adults with accumulated real world experience in relation to their respective sphere of expertise. Again I say, discriminating tactics seem to always work for the sheeps or people with the crabs in a barrel syndrome.

UNC is not top tier.

Top tier is not top tier either. They actually proved out to be bottom feeders suckling on Fed

The problem with higher education is that it is being reduced to the accumulation of information which is not the same as the accumulation of knowledge, let alone the application of wisdom. Too many traditional schools and the for profit sector are solely interested on selling the degree; not educating the student. I have always believed that the purpose of an education, whatever the level, was to learn how to think from someone who knew the material experientially, not just from book learning. Unfortunately, there are too many poseurs in academia, and those who seek these 'easier' ways (online) to get the degree may not be qualified for the related jobs they will seek upon graduation.

How about a test ? Go to parent teacher night with a high school student. When you see the math teacher ask the teacher what the formula is for the volume of a cone. 99% of the time you will get a return stare from a cone head

I have a PhD in engineering and work with very mathematical stuff regularly. I've had more math training than the typical high school (even calculus) teacher. I don't know the formula for the volume of a cone. I could derive it and I know where to look it up, but I can't recite it. Why is this a good test of the quality of a high school teacher?

Long ago memorization was acknowledged as being the fallacy that got the educational system to where it is now. Anyone can look up a formula. The educational part is knowing when and how to apply it. Your statement couldn't have been a better example of why the shift in education is needed. Though I'm sure you'd do just swell on Jeopardy.

I have personally seen many adults over 30 get on-line degrees; Most are single mothers that get sold on the schools BS. They are all still servers. Nothing wrong with being a server to begin with, but, to be snookered out of your hard earned money for nothing is sad.

People with mba's forget how to think on their own. They say what they're told to say.

That's what those who don't have one say. We can talk about it when you come in to interview for one of the positions my managers are hiring for.

That shows your limited thinking

People need to understand that the MBA was designed to give Engineers the business skills that were needed to run industry (accounting,finance, marketing & management). The pairing of the MBA with technology and engineering is still the most sensible way to utilize the degree. If your undergraduate work is in business, it just becomes a review of stuff you already 'mastered' as an undergrad.

You are right. The MBA has become the pathway for engineers and scientists to utilize their technical base while transitioning to a managerial or financial role. I know a number of STEM people who have done this.

Yes, and many Captains of Industry did not have degrees. I give you two, George Westinghouse and Andrew Carnegie.

You used the word. They are for future 'Masters' of the universe.

The reason why college cost a lot is because it is top heavy in management like how the post office is.