i just think its hard to have the "front page of the internet" something that represents internet culture riddled with some crappy things on it. I get the idea of transparency and what naught but there is a reason people don't always tell the truth, its open to alot of interpretation, but if they want the company to grow they would have to make sure they don't get 4chans image and have to moderate against that.

I am not saying i like it, i just understand what they are going for

Firing someone because she was unable to keep Jesse Jackson from proving himself a fool is necessary to not look like 4chan?

It seems much more consistent with Pao's other actions that they're running Reddit as a left wing PC organization, This is probably not a conscious choice but simply because Pao believes that's the only decent way to be.

I havn't read the ama, nor can i speak to the rest of the ama's publicity and the way it was run, however the other actions reddit has taken i mostly agree with. Cracking down on bigotry isn't necessarily a bad thing.

From a political standpoint it prolly has nothing to do with left or right, since it is a CEO running the company, its probably all about the $$$. Again if they want to grow reddit from an economic standpoint, they have to distances themselves from the trolls and bad eggs of the internet. Even if they have the foot traffic, companies are not going to run ads if reddit is too associated with revenge porn and general bigotry. Think you never see any amazon ads on porn sites do you? There is a reason amazon doesn't want to run ads on porn sites.

Reddit is a special business b/c of its origins in that it didn't start as a money generating idea, that just happens to be a side effect. So some of the core users are possibly going to be alienated as the companies focus shifts.

PROBABLY.....not PROLLY

your prolly right on that one two, but hey maybe you do grammar different over their

From a political standpoint it prolly has nothing to do with left or right, since it is a CEO running the company, its probably all about the $$$.

If it were all about the money she would not have announced she was ending salary negotiations for new hires because women aren't as good at it and therefore it isn't fair. Nor would she have rejected hiring people solely because of their beliefs about diversity.

She seems to have internalized her political / social opinions and is implementing them throughout Reddit.

i havn't read up as much about that, but again CEO's are logical business people. They typically want to run their business devoid of emotion as that makes money. Its not a stretch to see how purging some extremist views that would be considered explicit has its purpose in terms of marketing. Its just a weird mix cause business is typically emotionless and reddit by its nature is a website about passions and opinions and emotions, but not in a newpaper type way so the opinions are much less controlled

"only decent" ? Is she that much of a sociopath to think that and actually believe it???

Yes, as the headline says REDDIT IS REVOLTING. With all of the personal invective, upskirt photography, mocking of fat people and the mentally retarded, REDDIT most certainly is revolting, disgusting, and creepy. It's evolving away from that and the perverts are going to have to go play somewhere else.

Not likely. All of 4chan has migrated to Reddit, and seem quite at home. See: gamergate.

blah blah blah. Reddit serves a purpose. People can talk things out. It's a human collective computer that processes everything for usefulness.

I know that's a concept too far for the small minded to grasp..........

Interesting. Is it possible the problems actually started when Conde Nast acquired reddit?

I wonder the same thing. Corporate Bigness.

Who the fark would hire a toxic sue baby like Chairman Pao????

I am incredulous after suing a former employer that someone else would gamble on her. I've never run a hugh corp before but I have enough business horse sense to see from one look at her face you should not go within 100 feet of her.

Conde Nast has owned Reddit for a while. What's happening now is new.

They certainly drove wired.com straight into the ground.

Chairman Pao can do no wrong. Feminists know what's right.

She's not a feminist, she's a sociopath hiding behind the feminist label. If it's not gender bias she's using to her advantage it's her status as a "minority".

A sociopath with a $276,000 debt for legal fees. lol

Anyone who would hire either of these toxic "minorities" has rocks for brains

Feminists in general are sociopaths these days.........we're not talking suffragettes here. Women got the right to vote quite a long time ago.......

I don't see any difference ...

In a strictly technological sense, Ellen Pao is a mouthbreather. She has no deep intuition of how technology works. She is an MBA type in the strain of Carly Fiorina, who believes they can come into company XYZ, and use their MBA superpowers to great effect, without understanding anything about what company XYZ actually does.

Carly Fiorina did much worse she ruined a company that made innovative quality products.

Wait a bit Reddit story ain't over yet.

I've always said - never trust a Chinese woman with a corrupt, gay husband

Maybe she likes to be turd burgled.

Reddit is learning that if you try to censor content on "the front page of the internet", you cease to be relevant. Complete openness is what made Reddit so great. This is the perfect opportunity for a competitor to jump in, be open with content and take over as the new front page.

Voat is upgrading their servers as we speak.

Voat is a turd though. All they did was copy the terrible UI/UX wholesale. I get that they want to pander to Redditors but this is a crap way to do it. So much room for improvement and they just took the easy way out. In the long run, that will be their demise.

On top of that, all the people who left reddit because they couldn't hate on fat people are there now, so not the best userbase..

That makes it even more attractive. Literally.

You haven't taken the time to actually visit, I see.

So exactly like Reddit.

The best business decision voat could make right now is to hire victoria and announce it publicly.

and the reddit gifts creator - who was also recently terminated!

Voat, Digg, Reddit, Twitter and 4chan shouldn't be "businesses" in the first place.

voat has mostly been down the last couple weeks and seems to be unable to handle the influx of new users coming through. There are other alternatives worth checking out such as votable and hubski

That's not true at all. Until this stuff yesterday, I've been on Voat every day.

Censor it too much people will leave Reddit for a new site.

It's not just moderators who are upset with administration.

Much of, if not most of the userbase considers site administration to be out of touch and making the site worse, especially the CEO.

Many of the subreddits that have now gone private have done so after taking a vote from their users, not just as a mod decision.

I've yet to see a sub I subscribe to go private ...

So, how much until Wired and other tech sites give the another face and start to admit that Ellen Pao is a problem?

Ms. Pao can run Wired. All done, everything fixt.

"Mrs. Tweedy, Reddit is revolting!"

"Finally, something we agree on."

Reddit shouldn't be a business in the first place.

Not everyone can grow hemp, eat homemade tofu and live in tipis.

Some of us have to, I dunno, pay for stuff like servers, staff, office buildings and foosball tables.