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Sand_Cat • 8 years ago

Sorry I joined this "discussion." Looks like it's mostly racist and nationalist insults.

Sand_Cat • 8 years ago

Don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but if China's "newest" "lethal" bomber is a 1950's Russian retread, it may be a warning for the future, but of very little current threat.
The US B-52s operate only in areas where there is little to no opposition and US air supremacy holds, but even they probably have better defensive electronics than this "lethal" bomber.
Not that we should be complacent - China is growing and improving - but let's not declare the sky has fallen quite yet.

John Y Wong • 8 years ago

This is a warning to America's base in Okinawa. Basically there is no defense against cruise missile. And if equipped with nuclear weapon, a single hit will stop the American base there. Of course US will retaliate with nuclear attack into China's mainland. And China will also hit CONUS with SLBM tipped with nuclear weapons. If China is alone, America will 100% win this kind of nuclear exchange but badly hurt. But if Russia joins, then we will all suddenly wake up in a cold cave with dinosaurs roaming outside......back to ice age.
Now the question : Is America ready to risk his life or limbs for few pieces of rocks far far away from it's border?

Fre Okin The Contrarian • 8 years ago

Remember Nixon go to China? It is to give USSR pause to make sure US/China can gang up to nuke USSR if USSR dare to attack a weaker China back then. Now we have a potential China/Russia to nuke US. This is very plausible since Russia don't want to become second banana if she just sit on the sideline and face a stronger US in the future if in fact US win which I doubt since China can also level her to ashes.

Besides the Russians must be thinking. Thousands of Chernobyls from a nuke exchange, make no sense. Whole planet not livable, so better warn US she Will Attack US if US dare to nuke China First. This is a very logical warning for the cowboys in the Pentagon and POTUS!

Vincent Nguyen • 8 years ago

China is Arrogant and stubborn greed on Earth . latin America need to be careful . Next China will say to you What your is Ours

Vincent Nguyen • 8 years ago

china need to stop now before it become another Khan and Hitler , We need to drop fews Nuks and created peace china ? like Japan . War is good some time on this case . China choose to be Arrogant and Aggressor and invade Neighbors Territory . Easy solution to this problem is china return all Islands that china invade and get out then World have peace again . so simple , but china are rotten Eggs to the World polluted steal Pirate Arrogant greed . China take your 9 Dash line out of My@Ass and dont forget the Spoon

capnanarcho • 8 years ago

Jeez, looks like I stumbled into a chinatown bar fight near the airport....

As an Asian-American who is VASTLY more American than Asian here is how I hope we here in the U.S. handle Asia: Leave those narrow-eyed twerps to throw all the radioactive sushi and boiling hot Xiao Long Bao at each other all they like and trade with them on an individual basis with little to no consideration how much they hate and love each other over there since it is really none of our business... We should have no dogs in ANY fights over there in Asia.

That said, I would love to invest some money in Mongolia if the Chinese build part of their new Silk Road through there.

Also, keep yer' yeller hides off our land.. If y'all have any questions about that, ask the Japanese what Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto had to say about why invading America was (and still is) a bad idea.. We consider you trying to move in with vast numbers and buying up excessive amounts of real estate the same as a hostile invasion.. We won't do that to you, so don't do it to us. Investing is NOT the same as usurpation. We ain't Uyghurs, we're FAR meaner and murderous when it comes to our sovereignty.

Now, let's do business, shall we?

RMThoughts • 8 years ago

"Lethal Bomber" vs "non-leathal bomber". The only thing to to fear is fear itself.

kristian • 8 years ago

why does any country that isn't Western aligned seen as an enemy and that every non western bomber in international airspace is considered a threat it hypocritical beyond belief

dingding • 8 years ago

It's more advance than any bomber that the US has. hahaha!

Reality Check • 8 years ago

The bombers are not advanced but the payloads.
The advanced ones are being developed, be it one time only super-glider missiles or stealth bombers.

dingding • 8 years ago

it's redeveloped and fitted with advance avionics and weapons so it's advance

If China and Japan were to combine together and form a more powerful China, then China would have a much easier time taking over any variety of smaller countries. Of course, this may certainly need at least 10 more years, especially to combine military at the same time as technology advancement. Eventually, this more powerful China will become an overwhelming threat to America. This is exactly what happens in my screenplay titled; "The Last President" by Douglas Paige at; driveme89123yahoocom and asking only $1.7 million.

capnanarcho • 8 years ago

You got a gaping plot hole in your story:

The Chinese and Japanese absolutely HATE each other.. Literally consider each other sub-human.

I'm half Asian with family in one of the countries you mention... There is NO love lost between the Chinese and Japanese.

Just ask a Chinese and Japanese about the word "Shina", just make sure you do it separately unless you don't mind a bloody fight right in front of you...

Reality Check • 8 years ago

Why don't approach Obama and sell it to him. He needs a warning like that.

TDog • 8 years ago

I can't imagine the H-6 being much of a threat to any nation with modern air defenses or a modern air force. Japan has nothing to worry about.

John Y Wong • 8 years ago

Japan is too close to China. it's not the aircraft, but the cruise missiles. Currently there is no defense against cruise missiles that can fly at low altitudes following the curve of earth. Tipped with nuclear weapons, Japan will become a history. That's why America is so scared if Soviet or Russia ever built a base in latin America. The distance is too close.
And don't depend too much on air defense on a war against China or Russia. Before they attack, they will launch a missile to the space to blind all military satellites. Basically you won't know anymore what is coming. That's why the tension between big powers is scary, because it would step-up to nuclear exchange very fast. And that exchange won't be guided by satellite to military facilities, but more programmed on certain coordinates targeting anything included civilians because the satellites would all be blinded in the first moves.

Денис • 8 years ago

That's incorrect. The threat comes not from the plane itself, but from the missiles which can be launched from quite a distance and which are much more difficult to shoot down. So, everytime it flies over these islands, Japanise have to be ready for a possible missile attack, which will inevitable wind them up.

Reality Check • 8 years ago

Those laymen from the western countries, those form Vietnam and Filipinos are demonstrating their propensities for a Sino-American war, in which the laymen believe that America would win, and the pride and honor would be perpetuated, whereas for the Vietnamese and the Filipino they'd be able to retain those patches in the South China Sea, regardless what losses the PLA might inflict the US. Everything would be free.
However, those geopolitical and military scholars from the US, and many from Europe have shown their distastes of such a war. It seems only the smart brains would have a more realistic vision of what the consequences might be.
For those laymen from America, Wise up, stop the instigation, before it is too late.

Marlon Miranda • 8 years ago

chong chak ching chu tsa chi chi cha chu! hahahahah!!!

capnanarcho • 8 years ago

Why the racism?

JJXKing • 8 years ago

It's about time that China starts to flexes some muscle after more than a century of humiliation at gun point of western powers + Japan.

sam watson • 8 years ago

this is to show japanese weakness and let china get away with the aggression of which one day the bombmer will be use to bomb japan ( WWII revenge), so common japan, stand up and shoot them down and let see what china have to say for their aggression act.

lucas • 8 years ago

TU-16 as old as Beijing, China claim on SCS ancient rights, it will torn apart on its metal fatigue. TU-16 isn't match for B52 airframe and avionics not to include the electronics warfare installed with B52. look @ the belly of TU-16 in contrast with B52, B52 payload will shock n awe whoever its enemies. TU-16 and B52 @ the same era built and just look at the new space shuttle program of the U.S.A. NASA. Does China has comparable to these outfit. China mastery is counterfeiting and spying on technologies of the U.S.A.

Reality Check • 8 years ago

The planes are built in the last few years with many kinds of upgrades.

Butch • 8 years ago

U.S should send the newest Zumwalt Destroyer to patrol South China Sea now..

Butch • 8 years ago

Japan ain't scared they can quickly shot down that lethal weapon they're calling....

jod tan • 8 years ago

China's most formidable weapon against the U.S. are not only bombs and missiles it's their collection letter.

Guest • 8 years ago
jod tan • 8 years ago

I think you are just hungry and malnourished moron.

Guest • 8 years ago
jod tan • 8 years ago

you never proved anything moron.

Guest • 8 years ago
jod tan • 8 years ago

okay you win, peace man. next time don't call people names just say your opinion then that's it. I'd like to correct your latest reply do you mean my business not yours, right? i got the it just the same , have a nice day.

Guest • 8 years ago
jod tan • 8 years ago

you started it by using idiot, don't use that word, plus i am a lover not a fighter.

China's thinking is going back ancient....First Island chain? Because of these thinking china's act today in territorial disputes is like when the first island chain emerged....a barbaric act.

Fredlam • 8 years ago

China is only exercising its right to fly in international airspace like any other countries including the US and Russia.

Duel • 8 years ago

I'm certain these aircraft were seen being fueled on the ground by Japan's Aegis advance radar systems that the Chinese are not capable of producing, even with their spying networks.

Wei • 8 years ago

Don't ever overestimate your so called advance technology. read this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...

That's was 2007. 2007 was the beginning of Chinese military technological advance.

Duel • 8 years ago

The Chinese want to make as much noise as possible in the South China Sea so to intimidate Japan. China has no clear passage to the Western Pacific from most of its ports and the only way is to pass through Japanese controlled waters and sovereign to Japan. The only way to get to the Pacific in effect for China, is to pass the straits between Miyakojima and Okinawa. This is a tough pass for Chinese naval assets for the Western Pacific as the approach to these straits are protected by (officially) defensive positions making the approach like shooting fish in a barrel. Especially since Japan has announced the fortification of it's most western and southern islands with Aegis ashore and Aegis mobile naval capable defenses, giving Japan and the US site all the way into the Chinese homeland. Japan is our friend and China remains our enemy.

John Y Wong • 8 years ago

A single missile launch to the space (ASAT), will stop all AEGIS stuff from working. And also all the drones won't know the way home. And China is very good in this ASAT stuff. Their space launch currently has the highest successful rate.
The only war, ONLY, that the US can win over China, is a full scale nuclear war. Vietnam and Korea war had proven everything.That's because US has much more nuclear stocks than China. But that also if we don't consider Russia is bordering China. Let's just consider Russia is somewhere in Africa. America's weapons are only good to bully some cave men wearing sandals. Since the WW2 ended, there was hardly any war would start before US got involved first. And all the wars were big guy bullying small guys. We haven't seen America fighting someone close to his size except Korea and Vietnam war.

wfraser11 • 8 years ago

Single launch from space stop all Aegis? You go home now.

Duel • 8 years ago

Or so that is what we are led to believe. Fooling your enemy is a tactic used successfully by many countries, not just China but we know much China does not. For instance, what are the four navy X-37B planes currently in orbit doing. Two have been in space for more than 425 days. They are known to stop in geosynchronous orbit smack above Beijing and above Hainan for months at a time. Then quickly go elsewhere. Recently the US has removed two satellites from orbit using the larger of the X-37 B and return them to earth. We use those planes, still in development phase to do 'research' in space. And it you think HVWs will penetrate Aegis capable defenses, you are wrong. The other thing you don't consider, is there are redundancies engineered into great many military and commercial satellites, that overlap among our closest allies. We don't give away all our secrets, nor do you the Chinese have the capability to tap our innovations fully.

John Y Wong • 8 years ago

There is no way to defend satellite from being blinded. America has many theories (not proven yet : X-37B, whatever) to defend satellite from being shot or stolen, but not being blinded. Basically if China fires missiles with nuclear weapon to the space, all satellites won't be able to see in few hours. And in just few minutes, you will have cruise-missiles-shower. Like I said, because Japan to China flight with commercial airplane is less than 2 hours : IT'S TOO CLOSE. That's why US has threatened to use nuclear weapon if China ever attack US' military satellites. America depends too much on that.

wfraser11 • 8 years ago

satellite no defend itself. Thank you for saying !

Duel • 8 years ago

Like I said, we don't publicise our deepest black projects, certainly not to our adversaries. The WEST has beaten much greater powers than China on more than one occasion and it was the intelligence, power and might of an open and free society to innovate on the spot those measures necessary to defeat adversity on land, sea or air. We are not stuck on cruise missile technologies of the '80s or '90s any longer. I can tell you 'research' of the X-37B is only beginning and has proven highly adaptable to confront known existing challenges. A much stronger and even more militarized Japan is in our very close and certain future.

John Y Wong • 8 years ago

Dude, enjoy living in your dream. The real USA is not the USA in Hollywood movies. It took you 10 years to bully some cave men wearing sandals in Afghan, and they are still roaming around today. If all the "deepest black projects blah blah blah" exists, Ukraine has all it's land and a member of Nato today. Turns out Crimea and East Ukraine have gone, and Russia is still kicking. North Korea is still there, and Vietnam is still communist. LOL you watch too many movies.

wfraser11 • 8 years ago

Oh my. This is coming from the country that invaded Korea and now backs the world's most notorious criminal while the country you attacked (S Korea) is one of the most successful and prosperous DEMOCRACIES on the planet.
This is coming from the country that helped VietName invade the S Vietnamese bussing democracy for Communists like you?
The country that got its butt kicked all through the 20th century?
The country without a FREE PRESS< FREE ELECTIONS< FREE SPEECH, or a LEGAL SYSTEM based on Sound judicial system?
The country that gets its face laughed at every day by the Taiwanese, far more prosperous and happy.
That China?
As to the Afghans, you might want to check the casualty stats regarding Taliban and Al Queda KIA in Afghanistan. The US hit them hard and they won't be messing with us again.
So you go home now to your mother's house and play with your computer more little man.

Duel • 8 years ago

Let's talk about movies a bit Jonny Wond. Why is it that the US exports so much entertainment and neither Russia or China do? For that matter, why is it that you Chinese have tossed your drab Mao jacket for more WESTERN looking dress? Is there a stigma to that drab and passe Maoist look? So, you believe the US has just simply stopped what it does best..that would be to innovate... unlike the Chinese or the Russians. To innovate in a life altering way, one needs a free and open society that allows for political opposition, respect of individual property rights and most of all, basic human rights or at least to have the right to bring it to the table for redress. The Chinese nor the Russians have this. They depend heavily on foreign innovations to steal and develop. Look at the Shenzhou and China's moon Rovers. The Shenzhou is basically a soyuz and it's moon rovers remarkably American designs. I'm sure the Chinese are at the JPL open houses 24/7 taking pictures of as much as they can. What they fail to understand is that this is our civilian space development and only one of many. When you Chinese can go into interstellar space and still communicate with your probe or you can have a fleet of moon rovers big enough for three men to ride in, then perhaps you will be taken seriously. Remember, you may have discovered firecrackers and the Russians used those firecrackers in their Katucha rocket launchers, on Studebaker trucks as platforms by the way, using 1942 American bozuka rocket launching systems on a frame, but beyond that, you are void and empty of imaginative life altering innovation. Nothing more.