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m a • 9 years ago

Businesses, unlike government, can't operate at a loss for any significant amount of time.

Stan Carter • 9 years ago

It's interesting how ignorant people are when it comes to the minimum wage. If the job is not worth the minimum wage it will be eliminated, It's economics 101. An owner of a one person taco stand should be able to figure this out but it appears to be beyond the intellectual capacity of a Harvard graduate for example our Dear Leader Obama.

I support the elimination of the minimum-wage like Switzerland has done. More opportunities for everyone and the eventual increase of the average wage due to economic growth. Everyone should work, no one should quit including most disabled people. If you don't work you don't eat.

benjordan03 • 9 years ago

Except that if wages had kept up with economic growth since the 70's, average income would be 90k a year. Your magical free market idea hasnt worked for over 40 years. Yet you still cling to it...

FiftyVille • 9 years ago

"“You know, I voted for the measure as well, the minimum wage measure,” customer Edward Vallecillo lamented. “It’s not something that I thought would affect certain specific small businesses. I feel sad.”"

And stupid, Edward. Feel stupid. Very stupid. Democrat stupid, in fact, which is the most stupid stupid of all. Perhaps the store should have promoted more of Milton Friedman's books.

catman57022 . • 9 years ago

Yep, I would agree. That Democrat kind of stupid is the worst kind of all.

You can literally hear the income gap widening under liberal progressive policies, but they continue to stomp on the accelerator.......

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DezzNutz • 9 years ago

....and then they blame Republicans, Conservatives, Tea Party, Libertarian ideals, etc, for the ever widening gap. I get so sick of telling liberals how in the past 6 years the gap between richest and the rest of us has widened significantly, yet its always "Bush" and/or the Repubs fault

Tony Holmquist • 9 years ago

The "mantra", every time...

WEE2LOW • 9 years ago

These statements are a great look into the mind of leftist ideology (and why it always fails the common person). Let's dissect these statements to see what it's like to live in a fictitious world (pun totally intended).

"Although all of us at Borderlands support the concept of a living wage in principal and we believe that it’s possible that the new law will be good for San Francisco" - OK so even though the ideology you support destroyed your business, you still support the ideology that destroyed your business. OK that makes sense...

"Borderlands Books as it exists is not a financially viable business if subject to that minimum wage.” - I think you may be on to something here. I would suggest you stop blaming evil Capitalism and admit that your leftist policies have failed (I learned this when I was 20 and started paying taxes. It is liberating!).

“You know, I voted for the measure as well, the minimum wage measure,” customer Edward Vallecillo lamented. “It’s not something that I thought would affect certain specific small businesses. I feel sad.” – OK this statement is beyond comment and should serve as a serious motivator for homeschooling.

“Borderlands Books is a phenomenal bookstore, I was just in it yesterday,” said San Francisco Supervisor Scott Wiener, a huge advocate for raising the minimum wage . “I hope they don’t close. It’s an amazing resource.” – Translation: “Suckers! Vote for me again!”

ibelieveinfreedom2 • 9 years ago

Proof once again that democrat ideology is a mental disorder!

the realist • 9 years ago

Yes to ALL of this ^ Well said WEE2LOW

jerseydave • 9 years ago

"And at the end, he really did love Big Brother."

R Trev • 9 years ago

Totaly agree

Guest • 9 years ago
benjordan03 • 9 years ago

Capitalism has never worked. And never will. Socialism is working extremely well in most 1st world countries.

Guano Genesis • 9 years ago

Is everyone in SF so stupid as the customer quoted?
Maybe the LGBT groups thought only Chick-fil-a would go out of business.
I hope the city loses tens of thousands of jobs, and has to declare bankruptcy due to lack of tax revenue due to their incredible stupidity and bigotry.

I hope it falls of into the Pacific in the near future.
There are things I love about the bay area, but it is a cancer and needs to go.

PalmBeachVoter • 9 years ago

So I guess the chickens will have someplace to roost.

HowWhatWhy • 9 years ago

Simple, just tax San Francisco residents even more to subsidize the businesses that can't afford to pay their employees more. It sounds crazy, but in San Francisco that would be considered a sound fiscal policy.

Gus Seals • 9 years ago

Edward is the type of slow person that makes a great liberal.

TheRuleOfLaw • 9 years ago

His last name was the best clue...

Guest • 9 years ago
John Galt Decoy • 9 years ago

Wow, a blast from the past, when Hollywood had common-sense and good movies. We need to build a New Hollywood, where common-sense is a respected trait, rather than an extinct feature.

yooperpatriot • 9 years ago

One of my favorite film clips of Bob Hope.

benjordan03 • 9 years ago

Common sense? Like the common sense that says that it is unsustainable for executive pay to be 400 times avg worker pay? Because people on your side seem to lack THAT kind of common sense...

John Galt Decoy • 9 years ago

On my side? Which side is that? Here's a clue; I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. So tell us more oh insightful one! Do you read palms too, or is there a limit to your physic powers?

benjordan03 • 9 years ago

The side that still believes in trickle down theory... even after it has failed time and time again.

Guest • 9 years ago
benjordan03 • 9 years ago

Seriuosly?? The United States... the past 30+ years. Look at income and wealth inequality since we started this little experiment. Look at economic growth... or dont and just believe what sean hannity tells you...

Lew Schiller • 9 years ago

Well - first off - if their net profit is +- $60 per week it isn't a viable business irrespective of the Minimum Wage.

Second, the wage doesn't go there for 3 years - but they're closing now. Strikes me as odd.
Third - Amazon has, indeed, killed book sellers. My wife and I tried selling books relevant to our main items at shows and events. People would pick them up, browse them and then ask us if they were available on Amazon and/or for their Kindle as if we were paid reps for Amazon. This despite the fact that our prices matched Amazon. They still wanted to buy online. In doing so they avoided sales tax and with premium membership shipping is free.
Nope - that ship has sailed.

CarmenVasquez • 9 years ago

1. Some people have small businesses to give themselves a job. A $3,000 profit business that provides its owners with an income and keeps them productive is a viable business.
2. The wage increases now is an initial increment - it then increases gradually over a 3 year period.
3. Of course 100% correct. Amazon has killed retail books.

DezzNutz • 9 years ago

Yeah thats about right. For my small business, I make about that much profit a year, but pay myself more of course...

Yeah.
A lot of the very small businesses, ie; not LLC, live off the money in transit through the business. I know some small business operators, that live like kings, but are eligible for food stamps. Example: a neighbor of mine who does custom cabinetry has three current trucks, an absolutely gorgeous home, a four year old Jag, but gets food stamps, and admitted his adjusted gross income last year was under 10k.
I'm not complaining, but thinking I should get into a similar racket.

Lew Schiller • 9 years ago

1: Agreed and I know people for whom this is the scenario, but they sell at shows and events, not incurring the overhead of a B&M presence.
3: It's sad and it's not just that people look at Amazon as a an alternative, they're adamant about it.

chellymay • 9 years ago

I thought it was weird too that they were blaming the closing on something that hasn't happened for another three years.

They did the cash flow projection and decided to jump while they could.

russellmuscle1 • 9 years ago

Maybe the guy doesn't want to lose everything to debt and be bankrupt in 3 years? It's not that hard to figure out.

Liz • 9 years ago

Yes, it does go there now. It is raised in increments and fully implemented by 2018.

Karelle • 9 years ago

Yeah I was wondering at that $3000 profit per year statement too. Why did the owner not work the business himself, thereby cutting out the need to pay someone a wage? Seems a shame. Will the business be sold?

russellmuscle1 • 9 years ago

Well that's part of the point. He either lays everyone off or shuts the business down. Either way, believe me he isn't losing his business to make a point. Nobody does that.

LameRandomName • 9 years ago

Alan...
You support a living wage "in principle"?

Great. I support world peace. In principle.

In PRACTICE, some people need to be nuked back to the frakking stone age where they belong.

ibelieveinfreedom2 • 9 years ago

Liberals are fine with liberal policies until it hits THEM. Dumbasses! These kinds of jobs are not meant to be a career or to raise a family on, they are jobs for kids still living at home and going to school so they can get some experience in the working world and have a little spending cash. What liberals don't get is that when you raise the minimum wage not only do you put little businesses out of business, but larger businesses are not going to take a hit on the chin. They are either going to fire a few people to make up the difference and/or RAISE THE PRICES. Which in effect cancels out any additional income from that wage increase. On the bright side, since the low income wage earner's total income went up, the chances are he/she has moved into a tax bracket that adds to the federal government's income. Now there's more tax money for the DC politicians to waste!

Tony Holmquist • 9 years ago

When blinded by ideology, one cannot see the reality in front of them...

Guest • 9 years ago

Liberals are like giant 2-yr. olds: they have no real concept of the world around them; and when confronted with consequences of their actions, they'll feel sad for a moment. But will soon just poop, fall asleep, and forget about it the next day.

Chris A. • 9 years ago

“You know, I voted for the measure as well, the minimum wage measure,” customer Edward Vallecillo lamented. “It’s not something that I thought would affect certain specific small businesses. I feel sad.”

Math is hard.

draidt • 9 years ago

That's the problem in a nutshell Edward you "thought" Yeah sounds like a great idea without THINKING though real consequences.

1Indioviejo1 • 9 years ago

Will they ever learn? It always comes back to bite them in the Cu-lo.

MishaBurnett • 9 years ago

"But I thought that the law would only effect greedy bad people."

Darkheart11 • 9 years ago

Glade I switched to a reader and no longer patronize book stores. These lib, loon retards need to catch up with the world as ti is, not as they dream it should be.

Joe Farrell • 9 years ago

libs need to deal with the world which they made . . .