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Builder • 9 years ago

I guess the part of her situation I don't understand is this :
If she is thankfully willing to give so much of herself and sacrifice to help others less fortunate - Why is she then unwilling to sacrifice 21 days of her life to also possibly help others?

tryingtopickaname • 9 years ago

Because she expected much laudatory praise, while also expecting to be given an exemption for a protocol that the airport was appropriately following when she presented with an elevated temperature, after having arrived from an Ebola hotbed.

Erik Rush • 9 years ago

And because it's all about lookin' good to lefties and "feeling good about themselves." "I helped those darkies; I'm a good person. And their black asses better be grateful and vote Democrat when we ship them over here eventually..."

MB • 9 years ago

What an appalling comment. You're worse than Kaci Hickox, and she's an attention-grabbing celebrity wannabee, which is pretty disgusting.
She just wants to get a lot of money. What's your excuse?

jmat • 9 years ago

U missed it

Daniel Axe • 9 years ago

No, it's about science, she had SCIENCE on her side. Only reason for her to stay in would be to affirm misguided public fears.

jmat • 9 years ago

So sad, so true

Tonto • 9 years ago

I know, right? I tell you, the damn blackie loving dems left wingers are the reason Ebola is even in existence

Steve • 9 years ago

This is about her selfishness whether or not politics hi-jacks people like her and their causes. But before you pull the race you-know-what just remember the progressives last time I looked were black and white.

Guest • 9 years ago

Why don't you just go kiss some "darkie" ass!

Judy007 • 9 years ago

tryingtopickaname You don't think this is almost like Munchausen syndrome, where they're heroes in another sphere but among their own they want out and to be left alone. i don't get the frame of mind in this case.

Guest • 9 years ago

I would be interested to see information about her "month in Africa", she spent 30 days watching people die in a tent with no air conditioner wearing a hot 3 layer suit treating those men, women and children and did not think it necessary to take precautions? Doesn't add up. I wonder if any news out let went to where she was or called and checked out her story? Might make a good read.

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago

To further your point, she spent 30 days watching people die in a tent with no air conditioning wearing a hot 3 layer suit treating ebola patients. Yet somehow a climate controlled tent with all of the best equipment and amenities plus a medical staff waiting on you hand and foot and yet thats somehow inhumane. Seems a bit hypocritical.

Guest • 9 years ago

Comparing apples to shoes... A tent in Africa...versus a tent in America, where (by the way) this woman is an American Citizen...Within no infection, and Not sick, &....No other American healthcare provider has been placed in a "tent"---No!---That's not hypocritical at all...There is NO legal reason for her to be treated that way...And she was right to threaten Christie with a law suite...You see that it made his fat ass back off, don't you?

Robert James • 9 years ago

if the Military needs the 21 day quarantine then everyone else should
too. This woman is a bitch.

Guest • 9 years ago

Well, last time I checked, she (and "everyone else") is NOT in the military...One does not have a damn thing to do with the other...And if she is a "bitch" then you are an asshole!

jmat • 9 years ago

Yes she is. Wonder why she has disappeared from media attention?

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago

True, no other healthcare worker has had this done to them. Which is why one was allowed to fly on a commercial aircraft knowing she was likely symptomatic/contagious since she had a fever and another went out for a bite and a few frames of bowling while symptomatic/contagious. I fail to see how that makes your argument stronger. If anything it just goes to prove the point. Also in any argument where there is no definitive answer...the conservative approach to saving lives should always be the default IMHO.

21 days is a long way from a civil rights infringement...especially when theer is clearly no prejudice in the decision making process. Which by the way is what the courts have upheld for hundreds of years. As for her not being sick...the courts have addressed that issue. "Sick" that you are referring to is not the legal definition of sick upheld by the courts. Go read a little bit more instead of firing off ill conceived and emotionally charged emails to people. They can quarantine people that are not symptomatic...its already been argued in front of several state supreme courts.

As for Chris Christie, I have no idea what his weight has anything to do with anything but I do find it funny that in calling him a fat ass you have just insulted 75% of american men and 60% of american women....nice job. As for him backing off...I would say its probably too early to make that call.

Guest • 9 years ago

Nurse Vinson was not the only healthcare worker to come into contact with an ebola patient...I mean using YOUR logic ---what about ALL of the Docs & nurses at the hospital who cared for her...and at NIH, and at the hospital in Nebraska-----Answer the question..."How come THEY are not in quarantine"?---As for Christie.I find it funny that you don't call his fat ass out for insulting regular citizens and reporters on a daily basis....But, then, I guess that just means that you agree with his bull shit politics so when HE insults someone...Well...that's just fine with you. Fat boy, knew that he didn't have a legal leg to stand on so he backed off.....And finally, just because YOU don't mind stripping someone of their civil rights...(yes even for 21 days) that does not make it ok to do... I just find it funny that all of you people on the right have no problem limiting someone elses right---So long as it not YOUR lousy rights being violated..

Gary Patty • 9 years ago

Pandemics are good aren't they? Let's just see if we can have one occur... This protocol for quarantining people coming back from disease infested countries should have been in place ages ago. Imagine if Ebola reached mexico (a very unclean country), we would be screwed with the way those immigrants flood into our southern states....

Guest • 9 years ago

You people on the "right" really are scared shit less about just about everything aren't you? ----Most if not all of your policies (on any issue) are based upon unfounded fears, prejudices, and sheer ignorance....

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago

"You people" on the left are generally the one's when bad stuff happens your ONLY Plan is to sit around and wait for the government to save you only to then whine that they didn't save you fast enough. I see aboslutely no problem whatsoever with a bit of fear. I save tons for my retirement because I am scared of being old and broke. Way before Obamacare I would forego the new car because I bought health insurance because I was scared of death. And yes I am scared of diseases that kill nearly half of those infected and have Pandemic possibilities. Anyone who is not scared of a disease like that is a moron in my book.

Guest • 9 years ago

Once again...This nurse was not sick, she does not have any "disease". And, even if she did, you can't get it unless you put your hands in her vomit or blood, or feces. This year, you will most likely get the flu this season, and you will have a much better chance of dying from that, than ebola, pal. Your fear is your business. And like you have said, you have personally prepared for your personal well being.. And that's great. But you can not expect for public policy to react to your personal fear, prejudice, and ignorance...That's the difference here pal.

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago

Not your pal...and as I have told you before several courts have upheld a position that the legal definition of sick and the medical definition of sick are two wholly different things and have little to do with each other in the case of infectious diseases. Even the federal Supreme Court has addressed this in the past. See Gibbons v. Ogden. Sadly your issues with the left versus the right are far more important to you than facts. I am a centrist and the biggest problem with this country is the right wing radicals you hate so much and the left wing nut jobs that you clearly identify with.

Guest • 9 years ago

Listen, pal...You might be able to "pull the wool" over your fellow hysterical republicans eyes, but not mine...Gibbons Vs. Ogden---took place in 1824, and it had to do with the US Federal Commerce Clause of this country---It had NOTHING to do with what we are talking about here!....So either come correct, or go and peddle your bullshit with some other poster... I'm not the guy to hoodwink.

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago
Guest • 9 years ago

This case affirmed the right of the US Government to regulate commerce. And clearly stated that they have power over the several states to impose & enforce quarantines of foreign nationals entering this country...so, once again, you can try to pull the wool over your fellow right wing extremist hysterical republicans eyes---But that crap won't work with me.

newsonsofliberty1776 • 9 years ago

Frank B. You're just another low-information liberal peddling the "flu is more dangerous than Ebola" lie. Like most of your low-info tribe, you don't understand the difference between incidence and mortality. Let me educate you, Frank. Influenza has very high "incidence" ( translation for Frank/libs: a lot of people get the flu.) but a very LOW "mortality" ( translation for Frank/libs: very low chance of death from flu.). We expect only 1 death for every 50,000 cases of flu. However, Ebola has a mortality ranging from 40-70%. Therefore we would expect 20-35 THOUSAND deaths for every 50,000 people infected with Ebola. So, dummy Frank/libs, that means Ebola is 20-35 THOUSAND times more deadly than the flu. Liberal hack Kaci Hickox knows this, but continues to peddle her propaganda because she knows the low-info liberals who support her don't understand it. Oh, by the way, I'm an MD.

jake • 9 years ago

As an MD shouldn't you be mature enough and educated enough to not resort to vicious rhetoric?

docd777 • 9 years ago

Are you delirious? Frank is using all sorts of invective against most who disagree with him ,yet you find newsonsoflibertys stern but reasoned comments to be "vicious"?Perhaps you should review and compare more thoughtfully, otherwise we would have to conclude that you are just a shill for Frank`s Left-Wing ideology.

Tonto • 9 years ago

yeah no kidding....I mean everyone knows 1 is nearly half of 9!!!

jake • 9 years ago

It is called fear mongering Frank,without it,the conservative agenda does not hold up.

Tonto • 9 years ago

like rats, right Patty Gary??

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago

Well whats really funny is that you lump me in with "the right". I take a liberal stance on as many topics a I take conservative. Most especially when it comes to civil rights issues so your insult is laughable.

Guest • 9 years ago

I don't know your other views.. But on this one its clearly from the hysteria on the right...If you want me to comment on other issues, please state them, and I will.

Tonto • 9 years ago

21 days is nothing! You should go over to that land of darkies and come back and be quarantined for 22 days just to prove to these liberal satan worshipers how little of an infringement on your life it could be!! And you know what else?? you can be asymptomatic with a negative test too!!

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Guest • 9 years ago

You don't know that she isn't infected any more than she does. All anybody knows is that she isn't currently showing symptoms but she was when she landed. A fever is a symptom even if it turned out not to be ebola. That doesn't mean she doesn't have it.

Guest • 9 years ago

She did not have a fever when she landed. She is not infected. You can't take away some ones rights, bases on your uneducated irrational fears. The court in Maine just told you this very same thing, yesterday.

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago

One court in Maine said that....not Maine's Supreme Court and not the US Supreme Court. MANY MANY courts throughout history have affirmed this very same type situation. Its been almost a 100 years since anyone asked a court this question but in our country's history this topic has been addressed. And again I would hardly say that a disease that kills 50% of those infected is hardly an irrational fear.

Guest • 9 years ago

So "one court in Maine" said that...So what's your problem? That is our legal system at work... Look if the governor of Maine had a problem with that courts decision, they could have and would have appealed it. They, thus far, have chosen not to do that... I mean the system is working as it is supposed to work, so what's your problem?

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago

I don't have a problem, I am just pointing out the rather limited scope of your argument. One court in one state said yesterday that it infringed on her rights. Other courts (multiples) have affirmed this same right at state Supreme Court levels. So I hope they do appeal the decision because whether she is sick or not is not what I am worried about. I am worried about the next returning medical professional...and the one after that and then after that. I am worried about those that will act like the nurse who took the flight knowing she had an elevated temperature and the doctor who went out on the town with an elevated temperature. Its just not worth the risk to me and I hope they do appeal it all the way to the US Supreme Court if they have to. Its my opinion that if you decide to voluntarily have contact with an Ebola patient they you should build in an extra 3 weeks of personal time into your volunteer schedule for the protection of everyone else. Otherwise you are not a hero to me you are a zero. Spend the extra 3 weeks and you are back to hero.

Guest • 9 years ago

What "multiple courts" are you talking about? There was possibly a court order in Dallas. But there was absolutely NO court order in NJ. So what multiple courts are you talking about? And, these matters have to be dealt with on a case by case basis...So what other cases, are you talking about? Please don't further confuse the hysterical right on this issue, by injecting false "court decisions" in this matter, that do NOT exist!

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago

See other post and with infectious diseases it is not case by case. Use google it works well...plenty of info out there on this topic from major news sourced liek Washington Journal as recently as a few days ago. If you only read the news that supports your view you are not doing yourself any favors. Stay informed.

Guest • 9 years ago

Nope!--NOT true at all!---These, cases, by their very nature, MUST be looked at on a case by case basis...Please try again.

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago
Guest • 9 years ago

The power to “regulate Commerce” is:“the power to regulate; that is, to prescribe the rule by which commerce is to be governed. This power, like all others vested in Congress, is complete in itself, may be exercised to its utmost extent, and acknowledges no limitations, other than are prescribed in the Constitution.”
In interpreting the power of Congress as to commerce “among the several states”:“The word “among” means intermingled with. A thing which is among others, is intermingled with them. Commerce among the States, cannot stop at the external boundary line of each State, but may be introduced into the interior….Comprehensive as the word “among” is, it may very properly be restricted to that commerce which concerns more States than one.”
Defining how far the power of Congress extends:“The power of Congress, then, comprehends navigation, within the limits of every State in the Union; so far as that navigation may be, in any manner, connected with “commerce with foreign nations, or among the several States.------------Next Question!

Guest • 9 years ago

"...The Court has ruled strongly against any kind of implied preemption for quarantines. Rather, it has said that unless the federal government adopts quarantine laws or regulations inconsistent with those of the states, “the laws of the state on the subject are [presumptively] valid.”..." ---This means pal, that the Feds can simply put one policy in place that all of the States must follow...---Try Again!

Twiz1234567 • 9 years ago

That is true...much in the same way as the judge in the next higher court COULD overturn the prior judge. However to date neither event has happened and as such with out an order (which does not exist) the courts have affirmed states rights in that regard. I also like how you left out the next sentence conveniently that states that very fact. Convenient of you to do that.

Look you are just as crazy sounding as you accuse other people to be...which you do about every 15 or 20 minutes. So I will leave you alone to your crazy thoughts as I see that even if there were a major ebola outbreak you are also the type to probably never admit being wrong. You would probably find a way to convince yourself its those crazy republicans that are at fault for this.

You and people like you are exactly why this 2 party system will be the end of us eventually. Too many people like you blindly follow their local republican and democrats as if you are cheering at a high school football game. Rah rah my team won. You sir are the problem...you are just as broken as the conservative tea party types. With that I will leave you to your own thoughts.

Guest • 9 years ago

You and people like you are playing politics with this health issue...Mostly in an effort to garner votes in this mid term election, and you are complaining about ME?!!?---Anybody can see right through this crap, .....And, on top of that you then blame ME for our two party system (a system, that you KNOW that I had nothing to do with its creation or its continuation) Yet you make a ridiculous charge like that against me, and you call me "crazy"---???!--Once again, I think any reasonable person can easily see right through your BS..