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I can not think of another "foreign" nation (i.e. Israel) that has so much monetary, media, and political support from the USA.
Do we support Ireland, Italy, Sweden, or any other nation the way we support Israel?
Why? And please don't tell me because they are a democracy. Not even America is a democracy any longer, especially not after 9/11. Our rights have been systematically removed by the true Plutocracy that is today America.
It's gross, deplorable and it must stop.
Actually we spent more on Iraq and Afghanistan. You need more let's try jsouth Korea, Kuwait, Germany, etc. should I continue?
We illegally invaded Iraq and, want to make it our b.... This so called illegal entity known as "israel" claims to be self sufficient and, yet it is the number one recipient of US aid.
Money is money and lives are worth more than money. IS the apple reference about the garden of Eden and oranges about Israel's famous oranges.
Jaffa oranges stolen from Palestinian farmers and produced on stolen Palestinian land
Lol. Jewish land and Jewish farmers. Are you really going to argue with me on this? You don't even understand the difference between criminal law and international law. Also what is the point, neither side is going to change their narrative. We need to make peace with where people are living now. Anything that does not contribute to peace is anti-humanity. If you don't care about palestine a keep confusing terms and throwing out seventy year old insults.
Do you think there can be peace if Israelis are not punished for their crimes against humanity? And all the rest?
Ra,
You asked the question in a factually biased way. The better question is can there be peace if neither side is punished for their crimes against humanity? I would argue that true peace is worth forgiving everyone.
I think the two prime ministers could go to the Temple Mount and ask forgiveness in a joint prayer session.
Nah, not factually biased at all. Whatever that nonsense label means. Perhaps you wanted a more inclusive question but this was so neutral as to be in no way biased.
" I would argue that true peace is worth forgiving everyone."
What does this meaningless inanity have to do with continuing Israeli atrocities? Sorry, not an answer. Does the prospect of punishment for the guilty make you uncomfortable?
Not at all, but then this would devolve into a silly discussion on whose attrocities are worse and does intent or results matter more. However, I know that it is meaningless because it will not help either side and will not help achieve piece. I believe that forgiveness is the better path toward peace.
You need to watch some court dramas. If you want to waste your breath insulting, go ahead, I will continue the Jewish path of love and forgiveness to my fellow human
And you need to face up to some tough questions. Was the massacre of over 2100 Gazans, the majority civilians part of the Jewish path of love and forgiveness to your fellow humans? How does it differ from a crime against humanity?
You say you really, really want peace? Are you willing to do anything for it. Say give back the stolen land? How about sending Nutty and company and the IDF to the ICC? No? Maybe you just meant you wanted the Palestinians to go away and stop interfering with your manifest destiny?
Maybe you should watch some court dramas? See if you can get a sense of the relation between crime and punishment?
IN monetary terms - I think there are many - mainly failed I states
Of course the main difference is Israel contributes to the US economy in many ways from technology to medicine and beyond
Only Israel is not a state at all
It has no official borders. Its official name is Medinat Yisrael, which literally mean the city of Israel. Its official language was invented 100 years ago, only 3 generations speak it. Its population is imported eastern europe, russia, and god knows where else. Its "economy" is only made possible by US and EU support. That doesn't make a state. The world largest jewish ghetto at best.
Wow The Muslim idea of facts. Hebrew is only a 100 year old language????
Most Israelis are European??? Not. Most are Mizrachi Jews from the ME.
As to its economy. Israel's GDP is over $220B.
In fact the per capita GDP in Israel is higher than any country in the ME
except oil rich Qatar, Kuwait and UAE. It is in fact higher than Saudi
Arabia or any other predominately Muslim country in the world.
I am talking about what you call Modern Day Hebrew, which is a total different language than what you call Biblical hebrew.
Modern Day Hebrew was invented 100 years ago, fact. Reply with a fact based argument.
Ah Modern Hebrew!!!!! A derrevation
Whoever doesn't like modern hebrew don't learn it.
I'd rather learn klingon.
Modern day hebrew and biblical hebrew are more similar than o
D english and modern english. That is how language works.
Modern hebrew and german are more similar than german and old german. And when did people start speaking modern hebrew? 100 years ago. FACT. How many generations speak modern hebrew? no more than 3 generations. FACT.
Is that cool that the Jews brought about a new language. When thousands of languages are disappearing, Hebrew is growing. The other neat thing is that if you know modern hebrew you can read old hebrew. I know Tibetans study Jews to see how they have remained connected to their homeland even with an 1800 gap between sovereignty. Judaism is amazing, don't you agree.
It is so cool yes to read old hebrew, and keep telling yourself that god is a real estate agent that gave you a land. I read the talmud in old hebrew. the scariest book i ever read.
If you don't like God just don't read the Bible.
Your bible is a middle eastern book of fairy tales. In one of the fairy tales, god is a real estate agent that gave some people some land. You believe you are descendant of these people, and that you were on a picnic in europe for 3000 thousand years, and now you decide to end your picnic and return.
we decided ?!?!?!? what ?! havent you heard about romans?! the deportation of spain jews? about anti-semetism? my grandmother didnt chose to return, she was forced too by the ppl who took her family and made ashes from it !!!
man.... do you even real
and palestinians have to suffer because of your grandmother
the palestinians suffer cuz of bad choices and cuz of the right wing parties here.
i just came back from a peace demonstration in tel aviv, calling for ending the occupation and establishe a 2 state solution. thousents of ppl where their, but you wont see that on al jazeera... ho no... all they know is to write how evil we are bla bla bla.
next time when the nazis try to gas me i allow them to do so, so i wont upset anyone by trying to live. real sorry my grandmother survived, i know you would have been happy if they killed us all, anti-semite scum.
The good thing is that we dont need your approval to live here. And still i will always try to make peace even if all the arabs are nazi scums like yourself,
all parties that ruled weren't any kinder to palestinians. I am sorry, but your society is sick and morally bankrupt, that's why your leaders are chickenshyts.Two state solution is impossible. Not with zionists in power. Israeli leaders will never accept a two state solution because they want to be reelected. which tells you that the electors are the ones that don't want a two state solution. you are a minority in your country.
just so you know, i am not flagging your posts. I suspect the pro israel trolls are doing it because they dont want a sane israeli posting here.
God have nothing to do with your bible. I read it as a book of fairy tales, no different than one thousand and one night or a song of ice and fire.
Nice made up story!!!!! You read old Hebrew!!!!
Yes, "old hebrew" is more similar to arabic than it is to modern hebrew.
So we jews ara more arab than jewish? Are you advocating for our rights over the Land of Israel?
the language is. You are not. you are gypsies that came from all over the world to palestine. You have nothing to do with Israelites.
FACT. All jewish generations read the Bible in Hebrew/Aramaic for the last 20 centuries and we understand it very well. Germans don't speak High Deutch anymore neither you speak classic arab, so what? It's time you'll all return to arabia, where you belong.
I speak classical arabic better than local dialects. Classical arabic is the official language of all 20 some arab countries. It is an official language in the UN. Theodore hirtzl didn't speak hebrew did he? nor his children were circumcised. The modern Hebrew spoken today, that is the official language of Israel was a language that have never been spoken 100 years ago. FACT
I think you are up to five or six generations now.
Malak,
You have obviously not studied judaism. Judaism is an evolutionary religion and reform fits right into this 3500 year old tradition.
just other words for make $hit up as you go.
Almost all of humanity is making up s... However made up $hit can help us to be better people. Read Isaiah, Akiva, Kaplan, Avraham, Jesse, Martin Luther King, Jr. Their words can make us want to be better people.
but you are not better. You are becoming worse every passing day.
Maybe I am reading too many posts on AJ. Since all you have to go on is my comments on this site, it is the only thing that makes sense. I know sense and AJ forums don't go together well.
So how old is its sister who has so many mutual words,the Arabic?
Also 100yrs only?
Be ready to the rebuild of our third temple on the temple mount in Jerusalem soon.
that will be the day you end.
Sweet dreams little Ardugan.
In the meantime,most of you work as slaves to make living,have not proper education,health services,freedom of speech etc. and many of you are busy with thinking how to kill their other Muslims "brothers" and not only thinking but doing in fact as we are,in Beloved Israel, getting richer and richer,freedom is getting more and more fun for us,and we have the most secured country in the region.
But you?
You have your own old dreams of death,destruction,hate and revenge.
Well,let me tell you,you are not gonna make it so you better sit down in the dark and think how you can change yourself because it`s because of you that your state is bad and not because of us.
And about 1973,do you know why the invaders stopped their path into Israel?
You are allowed to assume that they knew that a few more steps in and their country might literally vanished totally and forever from earth and from then,well,we got much more of the same nuke soup which you don`t want to taste.
So try to think clear although I bet it`s very difficult for you at the moment.