Here is a link which shows how NRA News covered the school shooting map media scandal.

http://www.nranews.com/cam/...

I have noticed that a least one Spokesman Review reporter appeared to promote the map on Twitter without reference to its dubious provenance.

You must have missed the clarification...not that it matters much to you (dead children by guns that is).

"Clarification: Everytown used the following methodology: Incidents were classified as school shootings when a firearm was discharged inside a school building or on school or campus grounds, as documented in publicly reported news accounts. This includes assaults, homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings. Incidents in which guns were brought into schools but not fired there, or were fired off school grounds after having been possessed in schools, were not included. This list includes incidents meeting the above criteria that were brought to our attention after our School Shootings Analysis was issued on February 10, 2014. Incidents were identified through media reports, so this is likely an undercount of the true total."

http://www.huffingtonpost.c...

CNN is fessin up!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/...

Apparent eagerness to support the cause against guns leads to questionable reporting. Here is the updated story:

http://www.examiner.com/art...

How many children need to die before you realize we need gun control laws?

Gun control laws? What do you mean by that? Specifics please?

Enforcing the ones in place would be a dandy place to start, don't you think? Concurrently, we could take a look at our approach to mental health and work on educating folks on the art of responsible living by utilizing the see something, say something way of life.

Here is a start.
http://www.huffingtonpost.c...

One of the problems we have when talking about solutions for gun violence is a lack of information. Back in 1996, at the urging of the NRA and others in the gun lobby, congress banned the CDC from conducting any research into gun violence, thus we have scanty and incomplete information on the subject. I have to wonder what the NRA is afraid of. It seems to me that an increased understanding of gun violence would be helpful for those on both sides of the issue. Otherwise, the rise in gun violence in our schools might result in a backlash of gun control legislation which may or may not be beneficial.

This is true. Compare the safety improvements in air and automobile in spite of ever growing air and road miles. The data allows engineers and process experts to tweak designs or processes to improve outcomes. Since the CDC cannot collect data, and the industry will not, the "quality improvement" paradigm cannot be applied.

What if the pharmaceutical industry kept the FDA from collecting information on antibiotic safety and effectiveness, on side effects and patterns of use? I submit that making gun use safer by collecting and analyzing data would be a good step forward.

Gee while everybody argues about whether or not we have a problem with an increasing amount of mentally ill people coming into our schools and shooting children, which I think we obviously do, good old American business has come up with a solution...bullet proof blankets. A friend of mine posted this picture on Facebook and to me it is a terrible world we are leaving our children if this is what they need to live with at school

That looks silly. But something may be better than nothing. It does not look like a good way to use them. There are probably better ways to protect children.

Maybe Jennifer can sell them. She likes to sell blankets for children.

I am more concerned about crazy people who should be in long-term mental
health facilities running around free. These facilities cost money and nobody is willing to raise taxes on themselves to build and operate them. Nobody is willing to say that the psychiatrists have failed to cure the crazies with pills. All of this bashing the media stuff is a waste of time and displays incredibly ignorance to the real problems facing this country.

I agree about the mental illness.

I'm not right or left, but certainly would support getting taxed so more people can get help if they need it. I am worried about drugging any boy who exhibits any sign of add. what are the long term affects of the drugs used, what about the other drugs used. I haven't seen any reports on the drugs in the media, just sensational reporting n any shooting. I really wonder how the generations before the drugging made it. maybe they just let boys be boys.

Yep. Boys used to be allowed to be boys. But, now, what used to be the determination of the normal pecking order, is now called bullying. So, the emboldened kids mouth off and instead of settling it the boys will be boys way, (with fisticuffs) the kids run to an adult protector. Kids, boys in particular, have not, and are not, required to learn how to stand up for themselves, as it had been through history.
So now there is a reason, disease, illness, whatever, for every problem; instead of learning to stand up for yourself and learn how, when, and what battles you can fight and which ones to avoid.

i couldn't agree more. your last sentence brought to mind the old song the Gambler, know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to run.

Strongly disagree but quite the stirring defense of the status quo of bullying and rape culture. Your ideal world sounds just like Lord of the Flies. Why can't 'boys' shoot higher and become human beings. That way the could stand up for themselves, for others, and not hurt anyone. In my world, that's what a man does, without the threat of violence.

how is that the stirring defense of bullying and rape culture? Really? ever heard of the greatest generation? pretty sure those boys gave up a lot. do you consider them human beings? there has always been guns, I would be willing to go along with some restrictions on firearms, once every thing else has been examined. that to me is the problem, kneejerk reactions, trial by the uninformed media. so some of these drugs help, what 95 or 98 percent of the people who take them. but the one or two percent who go nutso, do we just call that collateral damage?

"There has always been guns"....really, what are you smoking?

What Is Altruism?

Altruism is when we act to promote someone else’s welfare, even at a risk or cost to ourselves. Though some believe that humans are fundamentally self-interested, recent research suggests otherwise: Studies have found that people’s first impulse is to cooperate rather than compete; that toddlers spontaneously help people in need out of agenuine concern for their welfare; and that even non-human primatesdisplay altruism.

Evolutionary scientists speculate that altruism has such deep roots in human nature because helping and cooperation promote the survival of our species. Indeed, Darwin himself argued that altruism, which he called “sympathy” or “benevolence,” is “an essential part of the social instincts.” Darwin’s claim is supported by recent neuroscience studies, which have shown that when people behave altruistically, their brains activate in regions that signal pleasure and reward, similar to when they eat chocolate (or have sex).

This does not mean that humans are more altruistic than selfish; instead, evidence suggests we have deeply ingrained tendencies to act in either direction. Our challenge lies in finding ways to evoke the better angels of our nature.

http://greatergood.berkeley...

Ok, and mankind has been on the earth for how long, and we have evolved to where?
And all of the "studies" in the world, have not affected what the day-to-day reality of human behavior actually is.
Tell the Taliban about being altruistic. Tell Charles Manson and the innumerable immoral and violent people out there about being altruistic.
Let's see how altruistic you actually are when you or a loved one is being violated in some manner.
Not that it is morally correct, but the fact is that the violent and aggressive will always attempt to dominate the meek and peaceful. You can either be eaten or you will fight back.
The reward for altruism, if you believe, will come after your time on an earth that will never be the utopia of peace and love.

You must not believe in the teachings of Jesus either.

There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.

I'm a teacher. I am extremely concerned, as I see the potential increasing every day. Not because of the access to guns, but because of the exponentially increasing of a population of kids who have substantial emotional instability.
The exponential growth in kids without any decent parental direction and care is becoming more violent and acting on their impulses. More and more, if a kid does not get his or her way, they are reacting with violence.

"I'm a teacher" LOL!

I would be interested in data on youth impulse control trends. Anecdotally, the kids I know today are more mellow than I remember of my classmates. But back then, fisticuffs were used to settle differences, not lethal force, so even the rowdy survived school.

I think fist fights still happen all the time. Adults just aren't tuned in.

This comes from day-to-day experience with kids and parents for the past 30 years.
As with just about everything, if anyone wants to take the time, anyone can find "data" to support whatever position they are in favor of.
There are still an overwhelming majority of kids and people who are well adjusted and productive. The percentage of the problem is really a very small number, but growing, yet their acts are receiving so much attention that it appears to be a large number.
I too remember "fisticuffs," but the kids of today are more physical cowards than those days.
They have been taught to run to the teacher when fisticuffs used to settle the issue. Now, kids who don't have the courage to use fisticuffs, grab a gun to deal with the issue that they can't deal with.
Kids are more angry about their situation in life. They are angry that they don't have caring parents. They are angry that they have not taken advantage of the opportunity at education and now can't compete in a highly technical world. They are angry that they can't control what happens in the way that they want things to happen. They are angry that the world is not handed to them on a platter where everything they do is entertaining.
Bottom line,,, it is the disintegration of the family that is producing the population engaging in these acts of violence.

Says who....you the teacher. Haha

Opponents of various gun control proposals said they would be ineffective, and some threaten Second Amendment ownership rights. They also said shootings are a mental health issue, an argument that Obama disputed.

"The United States does not have a monopoly on crazy people," Obama said."

Point well made.

http://www.usatoday.com/sto...

"Gun Control" is not going to stop this. There are already too many guns out there, and I don't care what you do, when someone wants to get a gun, they will get the gun.

I don’t think a shortage of immediately effective actions argues for inaction. The likelihood of innocent deaths has failed to offset the rhetoric of rights but perhaps the parade of actual deaths will be more persuasive. In my small circle of friends and forums, it seems that way.

Gun controls have been quite successful at limiting gun violence elsewhere and no reason to think American brains work differently from the rest of the world’s.

You had me until the "no reason to think American brains work differently from the rest of the world’s" bit.

Americans are blessed/cursed with an unbridled sense of exceptionalism, so much that fully half of our voters are physically unable to look beyond our borders for examples of what might work.

We are also blessed/cursed with a the oldest written Constitution in the world, so that while most other national charters have been written in the 20th century and thus better reflect modern realities, ours is steeped in the mindset of people who were more worried about the demented king of England coming to take back his colonies than some disgruntled, antisocial psychopath opening fire on schoolchildren.

Successful? Not in some areas with the toughest laws, i.e., Detroit, Chicago, DC, LA, etc.

Yeah, that guy who killed 77 people in Norway sure proved how futile gun control is, didn't he?

When he found he could only buy 3-cartridge clips in his home country, he just bought a bunch of 30-round clips over the Internet from America.

Regional ordinances one can circumvent with a short drive aren’t the controls I meant to allude to with “rest of the world.” Australia is an example where laws were successfully changed to reduce rampage killings.

Nonsense!

Those rights are preserved for Obama.

You make no sense at all. Lol

How the NRA hijacked the Republican Party.
http://blogs.reuters.com/ni...

very well put.

Agree.

I am more concerned about misinformation regarding firearms and gun related homicides in this country.
http://www.pewsocialtrends....
I am most concerned by the apparent increase in lack of responsible living by Americans who when they see something, for some unfathomable reason, refuse to say something.

Since many studies correlate gun ownership with homicide, it’s expected that declining ownership from 49 percent in the 1980s to around 30 percent today¹ ² would result in correspondingly reduced homicides. I’ve seen the media report many times on these falling crime rates (not misinforming), tidbits I enjoy sharing with my apocalypse-expecting (hoping?) friends.

¹ General Social Survey: http://www3.norc.org/gss+we...
² Gallup: http://www.gallup.com/poll/...

Kinda disrespectful comment about your friends. As I noted yesterday, surveys and statistics can be formulated to show a multitude of results. Following the money is always informative. Here you go:
http://crimepreventionresea...

It is true we are sometimes limited to seeing pre-interpreted information oriented to some conclusion. Thankfully, in the case of GSS, Gallup, Pew, ATF and others, the raw data and methodologies are available.

In contrast, the article you shared hints at questions but shares no new data. And its illustrations are outdated. The latest Gallup numbers show 37% of homes with guns in 2012,¹ not the 47% suggested in that article. And following the article’s link to other studies, we see only 33% told Pew they had a gun in the home in 2013.²

Americans seem to be telling Gallup, General Social Survey and Pew the same thing: about a third have guns, down from half a few decades ago. Homicides have dropped proportionally.

¹ Gallup, “Guns”: http://www.gallup.com/poll/...
² Polling Report, “Guns”: http://www.pollingreport.co...

Gallup is not as un-biased as it used to be - in my opinion.

You and Soul bring up a really good point Sum. How do professional survey business' accurately survey the public these days? I know I do not have a land line and never answer my cell unless the caller is known to me. By mail? How many folks would take the time to do that? Oh wait, maybe these pollsters search blog posts to gauge how the public really feels!!

The question of phone survey validity is a good one. In less time than it takes to write snarky remarks, I found lengthy explanations.¹ ² ³

At some point, nit-picking three major, long-standing social surveys does more to discredit the skeptic than the data.

¹ Gallup, “How Are Polls Conducted”: http://www.gallup.com/poll/...
² Pew Research, “Sampling”: http://www.people-press.org...
³ General Social Survey, “Codebook”: http://publicdata.norc.org:41000/gssbeta/codebook.html

Yowza. So much for having interesting and respectful dialog on the topic. This biological/hard scientist is moving on...

What a ridiculous comment.