Let the machines do all the work we can get them to do.
Give us humans a shorter working week.

The underpinning of genocidal capitalism.

Meanwhile ~ Half of America will be dead within a week of their next major 911 style false flag black-op ~ Never mind tho, cause the Zionist master plan calls for that to be a tripwire for the deaths of 2 billion world wide ~
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Whoever (Whatever) 'JEHOVAH' is, the guy is definitely a total psycho ~
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There you go Britass..... it's just like you to pass the buck.

Heh-Heh ~ Well ~ 'JEHOVAH' is always blaming the 'Priests of Aton' (Satan) for his shet while he sits in Hades and sells paradise as a Ponzi-scheme ~ We've already got a record of the last 6000+ years of his crap ~ Obviously a Looney ~
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I've studied his 'Ancient-Dichotomy' of the good verses evil and light verses darkness he runs as his excuse for the total mess he's (Zion) made ~ The reality is the whole thing is 'TRUTH' verses 'LIES' and it seems the liars reckon they're the patriots and the believers ~ Best analogy I've ever seen was a movie called "Clash of the Titans" with Sam Worthington playing 'Perseus' and Liam Neeson playing both Zeus 'AND' Hades and it's probably 'THE' most honest movie the Jews of Hollywood have ever put out about anything ~ The whole Judeo-Xtian thing that world Zionism runs has always been schizo\psycho and this latest fake 'EBOLA-DRILL' repeat along with the never ending bitch about the Allah part of the Masonic 'JEHOVAH' (Which Zion runs anyway) just proves the point about the psycho bit ~ Whoever or whatever this god verses devil thing of theirs is, the whole thing is a scam to hide their evil incompetent conspiratorial negligence, and their inability to tell the truth about anything ~
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I wouldn't hire a Zionist Masonic architect\builder to build a tin toilet in a Bombay brothel after what I've seen over the last 50+ years of their fascism since they whacked JFK in Dealey Plaza all those years ago ~ Meanwhile, America 'STILL' has it's highest youth suicide rate in history, 2\3 of their constitution is gone, the money they borrow to pay the interest on their US Fed debt is $19 Trillion, they got no preparation for POle Shift and they've just spent $1+ Billion of State Dept money over the last 6+ years to prove I'm totally fcuking stupid ~
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Someone certainly is ~ Maybe it's their 'GAWD' :-(
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So that's their God..... what is important is WHO or What IS your God?

PS: Some rational quasi-spiritual philosophy for you ~
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https://www.youtube.com/wat...

If he\she exists, he\she is no longer in this solar system ~
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Another dimension...... you are in this solar system.. The trick is to make the connection to your God, your origin, across all dimensions. Who knows...... you may be an alien.

You mean, like, with Peter Pan and Tinkerbell in Neverland, where all the kids can fly and they never get old, yet that's only because they're dead? ~ Go easy on those kids there cause adults are pretty gross ~ Those kids don't really know they can only fly and never get old in Neverland cause they're all dead, and the only reason they don't know they're all dead is cause there's no responsible fcuking adult there to bring them all down to the ground again with boring freaking facts ;)
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Was it 'THAT' type of other dimension you meant? ~
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http://www.quickmeme.com/im...

If God only exist in some of them is it still God?

Let me explain to you what I know. There are 10 identifiable dimensions with quantum mechanics explaining dimensions are in fact infinite. You and I and everything else exists in one of a large assortment of quantum states that are not all the same, or in the same dimension at the same time; even though our mental orientation seems to jive..... it's an illusion.

One common dimensional experience we share (at the same time) is that all life on this earth has consciousness shared with DNA creating a quantum state. Quantum states are also infinite, some existing without time and space to shape consciousness and DNA, (explaining the collective unconscious).

So what your quantum state says about you is demonstrated in space and time and the three dimensions you are engaged in. Your state provides the capacity to act out your eternal soul....so to speak for all dimensions, for all individual quantum states to witness. You are totally responsible for how you act out your play.... and will be responded to.

In order to progress on this eternal continuum, you basically must progress through the states and dimensions. Your journey is not gifted to you.... you must earn your transitions through love. And if you fail.... you get stuck. The worse case scenario is when the collective conscious is so destructive .... planet is destroyed before you transcend and you are forever eternally stuck in Hell until you reach the end when the planet blows up into a ball of fire.... where you burn until you fall into the sun. HELL

Now the good news is for those who have been SAVED from being stuck in this dimension by becoming one with God and have transcended in life or death like Christ illustrated for us while here and in resurrection. When Christ transcended he sent back the Holy Spirit (another dimensional quantum state) to guide and assist you with your move (through) and to the next dimension, the next quantum state that is even more beautiful than this .... to act out your eternal play. And it keeps getting better!!!!! You forget the ball of fire ever existed. Called Universal Cleansing

Think that's where the US economy went? ;-)
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Depends on who's economy you are referring to. In the case of unhappy, greedy robotons who struggle to maintain their Botox lifestyle..... could be a problem. But if you are concerned about healthy, conscious people who find joy in a cross dimensional reality..... no need to worry. While demonic Botoxed robotons burn in Hell..... the etherians will be happily traveling through the universe having totally forgotten about the trauma they left behind.

We have a machine at the post Office that is about 250 feet long and 60 feet wide that 'sorts' parcels and letter boxes. It's down time averages about 10% when running, and it miss- sort rate is about the same, depending on workload/feed-in. It still has to be fed work, and it's output wheeled away. A team of postmen is always needed to redo the miss sorts, and in any case the machine can only run about as fast as the mail sorters whose jobs it was meant to replace. thus in this industry currently the score is Humans 1 Mechanoids 1.

oh crapppp a drone supervisor at my plant would be better than the ahole I work for now....bring it!!!

everything will be fine until the machines organize and form unions and start demanding rights

furniture and office property already have more rights than a worker and will be used in a company far longer

Drones are still flown by pilots. Granted, they are not inside these planes but they are still controlling the aircraft.

As for robots taking jobs....well, some of the more mundane jobs may be replaced by robots but hardly a mass extinction of manual labor.

Really?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Old news. We all know how this transformation has been going on but it will still take a long time before humans are displaced on a massive scale.

you seem very naive

You now this for a fact or just get your info on YouTube?!!

You got to be kidding me. 9 out of 10 manufacturing jobs lost in America went to robots not china! Humans have been being displaced on a massive scale with robots for years.

You must have read this in some paper somewhere. I've seen these sectors and no the majority went to China and not robots as you say. Besides auto, what industry is dominated by robots? With as many robots as there are in auto manufacturing, there are still many more workers. There are many robots in many industries but they are not displacing the majority of workers. Maybe in the distant future but not as you've stated. Perhaps YOUR job was displaced by a robot.

"Besides auto, what industry is dominated by robots?"

All of them! Name manufacturer in America that doesn't primarily use automation.

How about Hatcheries?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Or Dairy Farms?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I didn't say companies don't use automation....but that it has massively displaced workers. I've been to many of these plants that you mention on YouTube. Also, just so you know, in Japan, there are robots building robots. Call any of these plants and ask the plant manager which they have more of, robots or workers.

Well how many people do you think used to work in a giant hatchery like that before they automated?

5 years ago 3 guys used to pick up my trash. Today 1 guy driving a truck and a robot pickup my trash. That's a 66% reduction in the human workforce. Soon a robot will replace the guy driving the truck too.

Automation will always take over low skilled jobs and will move up the food chain as time goes. Food, pharmaceuticals, aerospace and military will always be domestic and the rest will more than likely go off shore. There are challenges in automation and is not as simple as just sticking a robot to replace a worker. Do you know what they are? Have you any idea what it takes to make artificial intelligence viable? Automation is a great advancement but is not as simple as most people imagine it to be.

Half America's population has an IQ of less than 109, they are mentally qualified to do low to moderately skilled labor. Robots can currently do just about all low to moderately skilled work. Meaning if they have job at all it's only because we haven't got around to replacing them with a robot yet.

High skilled labor like Engineers, Doctors have IQs around 130 or higher. 97% of the population have IQs lower than 130.In fact 84% have IQs lower than 115. Even if you want to say people with a 115 to 129 IQ could learn high skill work just maybe not be very good at it. Then still only around 16% of the population has any hope of attaining high skilled jobs and only around 3% could actually do them well.

So 84% the population are currently or very soon will be unemployable and the employability going forward for another 13% is questionable at best.

I'm sorry, but you can't have a capitalist free market society where only 3 to 16% of the population can find work. We have to transition to something that reflects this new reality.

No disagreements on the IQ level of this country. It is pathetically low. The work is moving up the food chain. Again, you've not answered my questions I've posted above. Given the immigration policies that we currently have, there will be plenty of foreign engineers and scientists that gladly take jobs here. Where does that lead American workers? Compete or fail. It is that simple.

Again, you have a superficial concept of robots but lack the fundamental understanding of what these machines can and can't do. I've been through many of the industries that you wrote about and yes, they are full of these machines but jobs just shifted elsewhere. Now if you as a low skilled worker, yes, you will be out of a job, unfortunately.

There are 100 million people in America between the age of 18 and 65 without a job. The jobs aren't shifting anywhere, they're evaporating.

My understanding of the state of technology is just fine. You have wishful thinking your own job is safe, It's not.

The Watson computer in the video above is roughly as smart as a human 5 year old. As per Moore's law computer processing power doubles every 18 months. Given there are roughly 7 18 month cycles between now and 2025 Watson's descendants will be roughly 2^7 times or 128 times smarter than Watson and computers as smart as Watson will be in many homes.

Is the average PHD holder 128 times smarter than a 5 year old? No! So whatever job you do that you think is so special, sorry it too will soon be handed over to a robot.

Again, you cite these statistics that any 5th grader can write but you have the lack of understanding of what it means to implement it. Moore's law is continuing but cannot continue forever. It will run into sub-atomic limitations. Even before that time, yes, these computers are going to be much 'smarter' than the ones we have but do you understand what it takes to implement artificial intelligence?

Apparently, you are clueless on how the market place works. The average PHD can do a lot more than the average 5 year old and that is why they are paid more. No more no less. If a 12 year old can do the work of a PHD, then he will also reap the benefits. This is what's so great about the capitalistic market place. A freely moving supply and demand curve at a market exchange rate. If you are at the bottom end of the wage scale, well, you can improve yourself and raise your skills so it will become more valuable. No one is stopping you. What are you waiting for? Can't do it? DIdn't think so.

I don't think I am so special that I am immune from these forces. Far from it. I'm just like everyone else - the market pays me for what I deliver. I have no illusions on that my friend.

Watson is doing the job of a PHD holder as in a medical Doctor right now!

It's job which would normally be done by human doctors is to review decisions of Oncologist and offer alternative diagnoses and treatment plans. It been doing this for 3 years now and has a track record of making better decisions than the human doctors it reviews. Though Watson may only have the intellect of a 5 year old it makes up for it with focus. Watson spends every
second of every day thinking about the task at hand and nothing else.

As far as Moore's Law goes there are very few who believe it is going to fail in the next few years and no one who thinks increases in transistor density are going to hit a brick wall. Rather progress will slow over time. Where speeds currently double ever 18 months over time it will become every 24 then every 36 months and so on.

Moore's Law was last pronounced dead in 2012 since then they've started stacking transistors 3 dimensionally which was supposed to be commercially imposable all the way until they started doing it.

As well the 2014 discovery ultra an cheap method of making Graphene has opened the door to increasing transistors counts as much as 10,000 times over current technology. If this pans out Moore's law will likely still be going strong long after 2035 never mind 2025. So yeah Watson's a super computer today, but it's an expensive home appliance 10 years form now.

Better just to ask the government for a living wage rather than battle all these robots that will replace your work.

You don't have a clue on how automation is implemted do you!

Apparently, your job already has !!! LOL.

The foreigners they bring in are mainly to increase competition for high skill jobs in order to drive down wages in those fields.

When they bring in a worker from India they pay them way less than an American and that person can't quit because they're Visa is tied to being employed at the company list on the Visa. If they do quit or are fired they get deported. This has the effect of suppressing wages across the entire field.

Agreed. I've seen this happen and does put Americans at a disadvantage. The problem is, as we compete on a global market, pretty much everything become a commodity. Wages will seek it own natural equilibrium level. Americans can not expect to be paid high wages just because we are Americans.

Supply and demand - this law is never violated.

you obviously think that middle jobs are safe but IMHO they are far more fragile than some low skill jobs

services can be easily outsourced and/or mechanised

Actually, no jobs are safe. Either you perform or you are out. This is from the CEO level all the way down to the to the guy that sweeps the floor and takes out the garbage. Everyone is expendable.

I don't know where you get the "you obviously think..."

This is why we need a Guaranteed Basic Income for all Americans.

Where does it end. $30k per year, $50k per year, how about $100k per year? No free lunch my friend. If you can't earn it, you don't deserve it. Stop all this liberal nonsense.

Case in point, you can't sing and dance like Michael Jackson did so somehow, you are entitled to have some of that income as guaranteed basic income. If you can't provide a product or service that the market wants to buy, why should anyone pay you?!!

You just want the government to give you - something for nothing. Very nice.

Michael Jackson is a wonderful example of why one person having it all is no good for anyone.

In any case it ends with end of Capitalism. That end is coming regardless of whether a basic income happens or not. The only question is dose Capitalism die a quiet death or not. As long as we're exemplifying famous dead people. Ask Marie Antoinette how well uncheck inequity in a downwardly mobile society works.

The end of Capitalism will not be good for anyone. Are you insane, stupid, envious or all of the above?

Whether it is Michael Jackson or anyone else, whenever someone produces something, a product or service, that the market is willing to pay for at the market price, everyone wins. You, as a consumer, get to receive that product or service at the lowest price, because of competition.

Now as for a person "having it all", does that mean he has millions, billions, tons of kids to molest, fans around the world.... that statement is meaningless. He made millions, and believe it or not, is still making millions in death, because consumers want what he has produced. No one is putting a gun to their heads to buy Jackson's CDs.

Unless you are living in the woods and completely off grid, you are benefiting from someone producing something for the market that YOU paid for and you benefited from it. You are not living in a cave as you obviously have a computer to type your responses on..

So grow a brain and stop being a hypocrite.

You want the end of Capitalism, how about Communism? Have you ever lived in Communist China? Do you know what it is like? Have you ever talked to the folks that risked life and limb to come to the U.S. in a shipping container after 30 days on the ocean? Even China has embraced the capitalistic model in case you are not aware. You, my friend, are painfully ignorant of not knowing what you are talking about....the end of capitalism. No surprise coming from a Liberal.

What you or I think of Capitalism is irrelevant, it's doomed all the same. Robots work for free, Capitalism can't survive that.

Capitalism requires 3 class of people Producers, Workers and Consumers. Producers pay workers to make products. Once paid workers become consumers and buy products from producers. This is known as cyclic consumption. As robots displace workers those workers no longer earn pay and thus do not become consumers.

No human workers = no consumers = the end of capitalism.

By the way Mr consumer, why are you typing on your computer on this web site!! Genius.

That means you will be dead. Brilliant.

Your sentiments are understood. However, when governments impose laws that causes drag on the free market, we all suffer. We suffer because we will pay more and get less. Let the market settle where it may. Supply and demand.