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DavyH • 9 years ago

In some places Cody Wilson comes across as an innovator with a strong libertarian flair. In others ("It's about humiliating the power that want to humiliate you"), he just comes across as a douchebag. A paranoid one. One who distributes the makings of dangerous items like someone handing out sweets at a special school.
When the printed gun story first broke, I was all in favour of it. This guy has made me change my mind.

Paul Henning • 9 years ago

Stockholm syndrome.

Chucky Arla • 9 years ago

Then I doubt you were ever in favor of mundanes having access to weapons in the first place. The level of tolerance for real violence committed by the government is always inexhaustible. It doesn't matter how many people are killed, beaten, or caged, no one ever suggests disarming it.

MikeLip • 9 years ago

Ever hear of Ferguson? I believe there is some discussion of at least reducing the armament of our police force to something less than a full blown invasion force.

Chucky Arla • 9 years ago

Reduction isn't disarmament. Police will still have the right to murder people for not complying with commands. They will still conduct no-knock raids over non-violent "crimes", too. So they might not have an MRAP. Well, we should all sing alleluia.

DavyH • 9 years ago

Thanks for a civil response, Chucky. My point here is that the particular quote I used was incredibly juvenile - and, living in Africa as I do, I don't believe in putting guns in the hands of children.

Chucky Arla • 9 years ago

He didn't say he was putting guns in the hands of children, he just said he liked pissing off savages. I can't say I blame him. I've always hated bullies, and the State is the biggest bully of all.

Getr-done Parmele • 9 years ago

Obviously you are speaking out of ignorance. Making a UN-serialized weapon is no different than modifying a car, boat or anything else. The problem is that the government loses some control over the sheep. The government has no business telling you how and with what you can defend your home and family with. This is like saying that a drunk drives a car and kills other people but yet it is the cars fault because it was modified. Take some time and do the research. Obviously you like to be one of the government controlled sheep. Wilson is a very talented young man and the point he is making is way beyond firearms. It's about people rights.

DavyH • 9 years ago

Just a generalised comment and not addressed at you in particular: the level of paranoia exhibited here is staggering, yet you live in a country with greater freedoms than most. Democracy allows you the freedom to allow yourself to be paranoid. A couple of years in Zimbabwe should teach you what an oppressive government is really like, and a couple of years in South Sudan should teach you what true anarchy is about.

AnarchyPrime • 9 years ago
yet you live in a country with greater freedoms than most.

No thanks to the hysterical gun control crowd that continually seeks greater power for government.

A couple of years in Zimbabwe should teach you what an oppressive government is really like

And that's what the gun control ninnies are unwittingly trying to bring here.

Guest • 9 years ago
irish19 • 9 years ago

Number uno is providing for secure borders (part of population protection). Nearly everything else is extra-with the possible exception of standardized currency.

Smith • 9 years ago

And yet car drivers are trained, insured, liable for damages required to carry ID, cars are licensed and registered --- All of which when applied to guns and gun owners will be meltdown points for the NRA (prior reasonable group turned nut bags).

Ty • 9 years ago

Those things are only required to operate a vehicle on public roads, not just to own a vehicle and operate it on private land.

You can buy a car and drive it on your private property without a driver's license, insurance, or registration.

irish19 • 9 years ago

Ah yes, this old chestnut.
Let's look at just a couple of the other things this licensing would do.
Licenses would be available to 16 yr. olds.
They would be good in all 50 states-every middlesex, village, and town. New York would not be able to have its own set of rules on this.
Firearms could be taken anywhere.
I would be able to buy any firearm I could afford, and the only waiting period would be the time it takes to make change and wrap it up.

Silander North • 9 years ago

If you want to apply automobile regulations to firearms, most gun owners would take that trade in a heartbeat. It would result in a massive repeal of most US gun control laws.

See:



Taking It to the Streets: Why treating guns like cars might not be such a bad idea.

This article is an excellent and comprehensive treatment of the subject.

jon • 9 years ago

unfortunately your tepid outrage will not prevent people from taking your rights away. cody, on the other hand, is doing an end-run around what otherwise appears to be an inevitable civil war over our god-given liberties. and doing a pretty great job at it, too.

neeneko • 9 years ago

His rhetoric also makes me wonder how willing he is to resort to violence in personal disputes. He feels hurt and wants to hurt others, and guns make that desire easier to actualize.

I am recalling hearing similar statements from sovereign citizens and the like, people who have demonstrated over the years that people standing in the way of what they want to do or trying to make them take responsibility for their actions are valid targets for their 'humiliation'.

AnarchyPrime • 9 years ago
He feels hurt and wants to hurt others, and guns make that desire easier to actualize.

The government is oppressing people - it victimizes the poor, victimizes homosexuals, victimizes immigrants, victimizes children, victimizes the working class, victimizes people trying to get affordable medicine, victimizes small business entrepreneurs, victimizes people who prefer a joints over jaeger bombs, victimizes innocent people in the Middle East for the sake of oil company profits... and you sit there and deride him because he "feels hurt."

Cody Wilson is doing his part to help people resist the greatest threat to peace in the world, and that clearly upsets the power-hungry control freaks and apologists for the elite.

CatoYounger • 9 years ago

Isn't it amazing how willing so many people are to willingly lay down their rights and their lives before strangers in far off cities just because those strangers are in "government"? ALL the major atrocities of world history have been perpetrated by governments, yet this fantasy belief persists.

CatoYounger • 9 years ago

You are project your own BS psychology onto someone else. You don't know him at all.

MikeLip • 9 years ago

When CNC milling machines are outlawed, only outlaws will have CNC milling machines. Nice bit of panic mongering here! Something no one ever seems to get is that a gun is nothing more than machined metal. Hell the NVAs made freaking semiauto .45s in their damn grass huts with hand tools. It's not that hard and it's not magic. You may as well get over it - guns are not going away, and the ability to make them is not going to disappear because your undies are in a bunch over it. All it takes are common tools and basic machinework.

Paul Henning • 9 years ago

Not any longer :) And thats awesome.

MikeLip • 9 years ago

This whole discussion pisses me off. Not because discussion of violence is unnecessary - it IS necessary and it needs solution. But because the people who write these articles have their heads so far up their asses they are seeing daylight again. They think that by writing an inflammatory article they are addressing the issue. And they are so far off base it's pathetic. They think that by regulating legal means of owning and producing weapons, they will control what is defined by people who could give less than a single shit about the law. Here is a clue. People who use guns illegally are not going to worry about a law or if the gun is registered or whatever. There may be an answer to this issue. But it's not going to be found in an article written to attract clickbait.

Guest • 9 years ago
CatoYounger • 9 years ago

NO.

Paul Henning • 9 years ago

Whatcha gonna do about it?

Michael Lashinsky • 9 years ago

no

trisul • 9 years ago

"You may as well get over it - guns are not going away, and the ability to make them is not going to disappear because your undies are in a bunch over it. All it takes are common tools and basic machinework."

It's so nice to live in Europe, where I feel no need whatsoever for owning a gun. My heart goes out to you guys in Iraq and the US, living at the edges of civilization is never easy, there is always a threat lurking in the darkness and you never know when it might hit you and your family.

As we sit in safety around our fireplaces, surrounded by our children, family and friends, we say a prayer for you people, living your days on the brink of destruction.

MikeLip • 9 years ago

It must be nice to live there, where no one is ever robbed, murdered, raped, or looked at crosswise. I'm guessing the last incidence of violence was the bloody awful uprising by those uppity colonials. Enjoy your cocoa.

Guest • 9 years ago
C B • 9 years ago

Violent crime per 100,000 is higher in the UK than the US.

Michael Lashinsky • 9 years ago

...and no one has a gun to defend themselves. It is heaven for the criminals and thugs!

CatoYounger • 9 years ago

Yes, in the UK most home robberies happen while people are actually home, unlike in the US. The robbers know their victims have no weapons.

AnnaSumpter • 9 years ago

And don't forget that the homeowners who defend themselves will go to jail instead of the burglars!

DaySleepR • 9 years ago

Actually it's called "overstepping necessary defense" meaning you can only kill the burglar if you can prove you absolutely had to. If he has a knife and you shoot him in the arm, fine. Shoot him in the head though and you're going to prison. If he pulled a gun at you you can shoot him in the head. But you're guilty of murder by default and it's on you to prove you absolutely had to go that far.

kegewe • 9 years ago

That's false...If someone attacks me with a knife and I shoot them with my legally owned gun and they die from that gunshot, I am not going to prison, no matter what country I'm in.

DaySleepR • 9 years ago

Not long ago there was a case in my country where a woman stabbed a guy to death to protect her daughter from getting raped. She got prison time. It was in the news, I could find a link.

kegewe • 9 years ago

That's not quite the same thing. I'm talking about using a deadly weapon to defend against another deadly weapon. You're talking about using a deadly weapon to prevent someone from being sexually assaulted. Plus it sounds like a more complicated case, because I find it hard to believe that a guy would be able to continue assaulting after the mom showed up. She probably could have saved her daughter from rape without killing the guy. Not so if he was coming at her with a knife.

Wesley Burr • 9 years ago

That's because the definition of violent crime involves knives. And other problems. Read this:
http://blog.skepticallibert...

Pete Ludwig • 9 years ago

....and yet we get killed in much, much higher numbers. I wonder why that is? Oh yeah. Guns.

Freemon Sandlewould • 9 years ago

Sorry wrong Pete. I can tell when you are thinking. I always smell wood smoke.

Pete Ludwig • 9 years ago

This from a right wing apologist article about how violent crime is 1/3 higher in Europe. Note the oft repeated refrain of "despite US homicide rates being much higher than in Europe...." such as this chestnut: "So is America really as violent as we in West believe? The data would suggest otherwise, though the murder rate here is intolerably high relative to European nations and one could say that having higher violence but fewer murders is preferable"
http://cogitansiuvenis.blog...

Redking • 9 years ago

Death by firearms per 100,000 poulation:

UK: 0.25
US: 10.30

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

AnarchyPrime • 9 years ago

More people in the US are murdered without guns than are murdered with any kind of weapon in the UK.

Are you going to blame guns for that, too?

Edit: Yes, that is rate to which I'm referring, not absolute counts.

Bruce Curtis • 9 years ago

Don't confuse him with facts...

Pete Ludwig • 9 years ago

I'm going to blame you for misleading nonsense statistics - at least normalize based on population size (UK wins normalized). Now here's a graph showing how badly guns eclipse every other potential murder weapon in the US: https://www.google.com/sear...

MichaelZWilliamson • 9 years ago

And computers eclipse every other method of distributing child porn.

I don't care about that, either.

If you hate freedom, move to North Korea.

Sorry about your small penis.

Hawkeye • 9 years ago

Amen.

Pete Ludwig • 9 years ago

I love my country, this country, and am sick of seeing Teatards like you wreck it with knee jerk stupidity. Luckily for me, your kind is dying out because today's twenty somethings grew up knowing how to tell facts from bs (as required in this internet age), and they mostly think you guys are idiots. Here's to you becoming an anachronism. Buh Bye.