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Re: The Uncivil Style of Intelligent Design Critics

keyboardshark — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:52:10 -0000

Well spoken, John. We should continue to refute what Chris and Jeff D. espouse with sound logic and scientific arguments, but do it in a respectful, loving way. And at the same time, we, as Christians, should be praying that God, in His providence, has indeed drawn these two individuals to this site so that they, too, might receive the gift of eternal life. We know that God works ALL thing together for good to them that are called according to His purpose.

Re: Air Force Academy Spends $80K on Pagan Worship Center

keyboardshark — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 03:32:25 -0000

If you are a Christian as you claim, daves, it&#039s time you start acting like one. Otherwise, you are only fooling yourself. You are certainly not fooling anyone here.

Re: Air Force Academy Spends $80K on Pagan Worship Center

keyboardshark — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 03:41:10 -0000

daves: The language of one treaty, in which the US government kowtowed to muslims, just as we do today, does not override the hundreds of thousands of documents which clearly show this country was founded on Christian principles by the founding fathers, who were nearly all Christians with very few exceptions.

The Mayflower Compact states that the reason for their coming to the new world was "for the glory of God and for the advancement of the Christian religion". You need to read the book, "The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States, a very thick volume that was written in 1864. That&#039s no typo--1864, not 1964 or 2004.

Re: Why Atheists Celebrate Christmas

keyboardshark — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:34:52 -0000

If Christianity was "dreamt up by goat herders" then we have to marvel how they changed the entire course of human history, and brought about countless benefits, both scientific and humanitarian, to mankind. Plus they created a Book, the Bible, that is the most widely-read and most widely banned-and-burned book in history, and that contains hundreds of fulfilled prophecies. And they somehow "duped" billions of people to follow a man who claimed to be God (Jesus) whom atheists claim never existed, despite the clear historical evidence. Quite an accomplishment for unschooled goat herders, I&#039d say.

Re: Why Atheists Celebrate Christmas

keyboardshark — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 01:12:51 -0000

There is no commandment in the Bible telling us to celebrate Christmas. But the angels (a multitude of the heavenly host, Luke 2:13-14) did proclaim "Glory to God in the highest" at the birth of the Saviour, and the shepherds also came to see the Christ child, so we can at least say there is some Biblical precedent for celebrating Christmas, although certainly not the commercialized way it is celebrated today.

Re: Why Atheists Celebrate Christmas

keyboardshark — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 01:57:10 -0000

Virtually all modern scientific achievements were the result of scientists who believed the Bible. For example, Kepler (a brilliant mathematician and astronomer), Galileo Galilei (astronomy), Robert Boyle (chemistry, "Boyle&#039s Law" for gases), Michael Faraday (electricity and magnetism), just to name a few. http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencef...
No other so-called "religion" even comes close. Nor does atheism or agnosticism.

The apostles, who wrote the Bible, most certainly lived during Jesus lifetime, and the corroborating evidence is so strong that if we did not believe that the Bible was historically true, we would have to throw out every ancient "fact" that is accepted as true today. No historian with even an ounce of credibility would dare to claim that the Bible is not the most well-documented ancient text ever. No one doubts the existence of Julius Caesar, yet there is far more evidence for the historicity of Jesus Christ, ,yet atheists claim He never existed.

Re: Why Atheists Celebrate Christmas

keyboardshark — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:12:40 -0000

What a bunch of nonsense, Jeff. No evidence israel was in Egypt? Better read this: http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a027.ht...

Jesus didn&#039t exist? (evidence from non-Christian sources, since you don&#039t believe Bible) http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4223639...

No wood from Jesus&#039 carpentry shop exists? So what. What dooes that prove? I&#039ll answer for you. Absolutely nothing. To keep a piece of wood He had and to consider it some kind of holy object would be idol worship anyway.

Nazareth did not exist during the time of Jesus? Not true: http://www.facingthechallenge.org/nazareth.php
AND http://www.doxa.ws/Jesus_pages/Nazareth1.html

I fail to see how your "Spider Man" analogy applies to anything, since we can be certain that Spiderman is a fictional character created in modern times, other than an attempt to show us how clever you are. There is plenty of evidence that the geographical locations referenced in The Bible were real places. You are simply trying to flush the historical evidence down the commode.

Re: Why Atheists Celebrate Christmas

keyboardshark — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:18:23 -0000

I never said Christian scientists "invented" the scientific method. But the fact remains, that the vast majority of scientific advances were the result of the work of Bible-believing Christian scientists. The scientific method alone is only a tool. It requires imaginative, enlightened minds to actually discover and explain the scientific laws and properties of the universe. Christians understand that God has set forth laws that govern the universe, so it only makes sense that their minds, unclouded by the false man-made irrational concepts, would be the ones to make these discoveries.

Re: Why Atheists Celebrate Christmas

keyboardshark — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 07:21:03 -0000

The word "trinity" itself may not be in the Bible, but the concept certainly is: "21Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. " (Luke 3:21-22)
Jesus, the Son, the Holy Ghost descending on Him, and the voice (the Father) from heaven

Re: Why Atheists Celebrate Christmas

keyboardshark — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:52:47 -0000

Please provide a list or link to a list of these non-Christian scientists and their lengthy list of scientific achievements. A very short list, I assure you.

Hindus, for example, would not be likely to understand God&#039s laws that uphold the universe, because they believe in multiple Gods, none of which have power over the universe. In fact, a belief in ANY god is optional with that religion, and the range of ideas is all over the map. The ultimate goal of all Hindus is release (moksha) from the cycle of rebirth (samsara). One can believe a wide variety of things about God, the universe and the path to liberation and still be considered a Hindu. Hardly a foundation to build upon regarding scientific laws and principles. http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/beliefs.htm

Alchemy was pursued for centuries based on how people MISunderstood the Bible.

While it is true that the Bible does not specifically mention germs, there were most definitely many commands for the priests (who were engaged in animal slaughter) to wash their hands and other parts of their body, as well as their clothes (Exodus 29,30,40, Lev. 8, etc).

Re: Why Atheists Celebrate Christmas

keyboardshark — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 02:10:51 -0000

Speculations about Joseph&#039s tomb neither prove nor disprove that Israel was in Egypt for 400 years, but it certainly fills in another piece of the puzzle. A statue found in a tomb would be circumstantial evidence for proving Joseph was there, but it is only a small portion of the evidence.

What is the problem with Joseph being Asian? It only means he resided in Asia, not that he was any particular skin color, race, etc. Today, for example, you will find all races and nationalities of people residing in Asia. Israel itself is part of Asia.

Re: Islam In, Christianity Out

keyboardshark — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 05:57:50 -0000

All the atheists that live in the U.S should be thankful that they live in a (so far, but getting worse) Christian nation rather than under the iron heel of Islam. They do not have to worry about a gang of Christians showing up at their house one night with torches, waiting to drag them out of their houses for not believing the Bible. They won&#039t be so fortunate if the U.S. becomes islamized, like the left would have us to be. Wait till the muslims comwe calling and accusing you of "apostasy".

It&#039s time we cut the PC talk and call a spade a spade--there is no such thing as a "moderate" muslim group ANYWHERE. Under no circumstances can we allow muslims to gain control of the U.S. or the entire world will be on its way to becoming an islamic hell-hole like Iran.

Re: Atheists demand that Texas nativity scene be torn down

keyboardshark — Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:46:18 -0000

PART 1
Jeff sez: "There are four versions of the Jesus story (the Gospels) but only two of them, Matthew and Luke, deal with the birth and their tales remain hopelessly conflicted". perhaps you&#039d care to enlighten us as to these "hopelessly conflicted" passages.

The reason there are 4 Gospel accounts is not because they are different "stories" but simply because they are viewing the same story from a different perspective. For example, if there was a car accident witnessed by 4 people--a mechanic, a doctor, a lawyer, and a musician, their accounts of the accident might go something like this:

Re: Atheists demand that Texas nativity scene be torn down

keyboardshark — Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:47:11 -0000

PART 2:
Mechanic: "The red Honda Accord with a 177 hp 2.4 liter 4-cylinder i-VTEC engine hit the blue Ford Focus with a 2.0 liter Ti-VCT GDI 1-4 160 hp aluminum block engine, causing damage to the right front area of the Focus, causing damage to the battery, radiator and condenser.

Doctor: "The passenger in the blue car sustained a fractured jaw and possible spinal injuries, while the driver and passenger of the red car escaped with only minor injuries. Immediate medical attention was warranted"

Lawyer: "The blue Ford Focus, which apparently was at fault in the accident, sustained about $3000 in damages, and the passenger in the red car who was injured may have legal recourse against the driver of the Focus."

Musician: "I heard a screeching sound, like an out-of-tune guitar player, then a bang like someone had hit a bass drum. Then the tinkle of glass followed by dead silence.

Well, maybe a little simplistic, but I think you get the idea.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:47:44 -0000

PART 1 bighoss sez: "Right wingers knee-jerkedly promote boycotts of any businesses whose business practices do not reflect ultraconservative ideologies". So now it&#039s OK to boycott Lowe&#039s for something THEY decide NOT to do? I love your double standard.

"One AFA&#039s resident fanatics, the despicable Brian Fischer, asserts that Muslims and others not of the Christian religion are not entitled to protection under the First Amendment, that it applies only to Christians." Really? Give me a link to the exact quote. Sounds like it&#039s YOUR spin on what he really said. I also appreciate your "tolerant" language: "despicable"
Brian Fischer. Glad you libs are so compassionate and caring.

"This same nut job also has said publicly that only he and Justice Clarence Thomas truly understand the First Amendment&#039s Establishment Clause" Again, quote please, not your distorted version. "Nut job"? Nice.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:48:55 -0000

PART 2
bighoss sez: "Lowe&#039s chickened out under pressure from ultra-rightists..." And how do you know what their reasons were for pulling the ads? Maybe they were pressured by muslim groups into running them in the first place.

"...who refuse to recognize that a Muslim can indeed be a good, loyal American." Sure, you can find a few rare examples of muslim families that fit this warm, fuzzy model, but the big problem with the TV series is that it gives the false impression that ALL muslims are like this, which is far from true. Go to any majority muslim nation, like Iran or Saudi Arabia, and just try to practice some other religion like Christianity, or no religion at all. Prepare to get your head sliced off and your house blasted with bombs. This ALWAYS happens when muslims become the majority. They will kill you if you do not agree to their ways.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:49:21 -0000

PART 3

This is why that show is so particularly dangerous--it gives the false impression that islam is a "religion of peace", which just ain&#039t so. C&#039mon, wake up people! If you let muslims become the majority in this country, you can kiss the good ole USA goodbye. If we don&#039t take a stand now, one day you will wake up to find that you are living in an islamic hellhole just like Iran. Think I&#039m joking? Again, just look at any current muslim majority nation, and ask yourself, "Is this what I want the USA to become?"

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:54:38 -0000

PART 4
bighoss sez: "You people are of the same disordered mentality that sent loyal Japanese-Americans to internment camps while some of their sons were fighting and dying for this nation in WW II in the European theater, comprising the most highly-decorated unit in that war." Uh, I got news for you, bighoss. Japanese-Americans did not go around blowing up suicide vests and smashing planes into skyscrapers, killing thousands. I agree that the Japanese internment camps were wrong, but this has absolutely nothing to do with modern-day muslims in the least. Total apples-to-oranges.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:02:05 -0000

American muslims of today have no parallel to Catholics of the past era. Catholics did not murder thousands of people with suicide bombs or guns, nor did they chop off your head if you did not follow the Catholic religion. Muslims? Hmmm, if the shoe fits.....

There is no "irrational" bias against muslims. Any opposition to their religion has to do with the past and present behavior of its adherents, and so is quite rational indeed. What is irrational is your bone-headed lax attitude that refuses to see the very great danger this so-called "religion" (which is not really a religion, but an ideology that seeks world domination by force) poses, bighoss. Wake up, my friend.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:12:31 -0000

bighoss: We all can agree that the internment of Japanese-Americans was wrong, but this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with modern muslims. No one on here is suggesting we round them up and ship them off to a camp. So please, ditch the illogical apples-to-oranges comparison NOW. It&#039s like someone comparing another person to Adolph Hitler when they can think of no logical argument to support their views.

Opposition to muslims has to do with their past and present violent behavior and intolerance for people who think and believe differently than they, not their race or ethnicity or their value as a human being. It&#039s the destructive IDEOLOGY we oppose, that has shown time and again that it is violent and intolerant. If you can think of logical reasons why we should welcome this ideology in the USA, present your arguments, but skip the false association arguments.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:30:00 -0000

bighoss says: "As to Bryan Fischer, he indeed has taken the position on the First Amendment that I described above". No, bighoss, he was talking from a historical perspective about Christian churches at the time of the founding fathers, and he very clearly says that they were silent on the issue of non-Christian religions, of which there were a tiny minority at the time. Fischer does not say other religions are NOT entitled to protection under the First Amendment, only that the founders were addressing the predominant Christian religion of the time. Quite different from your spin on it. Not metioning other religions and specifically EXCLUDING them is two entirely different matters.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:39:31 -0000

bighoss sez: "The TV series is NOT about Muslims in Iran or Saudi Arabia." I never said it was. My point is, that once muslims become the majority in ANY nation (which, thankfully, they are not now) there is violence, intolerance, and murder directed against any other religions or any ideas that don&#039t toe the muslim line. Muslims in the USA have not had some magic fairy dust sprinkled over them that makes them different in a warm, fuzzy way compared to muslims elsewhere. The ideology is the same.

This show gives the FALSE impression that we should welcome as many muslims to this nation as possible, because they will all be loving, family-oriented, law-abiding citizens. NOT. I absolutely guarantee you that if they ever become the majority, it will be the end of the USA as we know it. The real danger is your lax attitude toward letting them do just that, and these propaganda films that are trying to pave the way for their takeover.

I suggest you do a little research into the history of islam and what their current leaders and followers are doing and saying. Very scary.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:48:08 -0000

bighoss sez: "The Japanese version of the Islamist suicide bomber was the fanatical kamikaze pilot".
I am fully aware of the WW II history of the kamikaze pilots. My father fought against the Japs in the Phillippines, (37th Div.) and I have personally studied the history of WW II in great detail.

Your error is that you are comparing combatants (kamikazi pilots) who were in desperate straits as to Japan&#039s waning fortunes in the war, with civilians living not in Japan, but in the USA. Apples to oranges. The kamikaze attacks were a last-ditch, desperate attempt by the Japanese high command to turn the tide of the war back in their favor. Kamikaze attacks were rare early in the war when Japan was on the offensive and winning many battles. No similarity whatsoever to Japanese-American citizens who were improperly interned.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:03:32 -0000

PART 1
bighoss sez: "American Muslims have not murdered thousands of people with suicide bombs or guns" Not yet, but are you so soon to forget 9/11, which happened right here on American soil? Didn&#039t think so. True, most were Saudis, but I&#039m sure they could have just as easily recruited muslims already here.

The fatal flaw in your thinking is that you believe that American muslims are somehow magically devoid of the violence, hatred, and murder which is found throughout its adherants worldwide. The only reason it has not found greater expression here in the USA (yet) is simply because they are not yet a majority.

Re: Lowe's takes heat over pulling ads from Muslim show

keyboardshark — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:03:55 -0000

PART 2
As I&#039ve said several times already, once they DO become the majority, the USA will become transformed into an islamic hellhole where ANYONE who holds ANY other religion or philosophy that is not islam will be persecuted, attacked, or killed. If you cannot see this very dngerous situation that is developing right under your nose, then I cannot help you.

As I have also said, opposition to islam is a result of their past and present violent actions and ideas, not because of their race, nationality, or because they think differently, or whatever. If they had had a history of practicing their religion peaceable, I would welcome them to this country with open arms, but unfortunately, they themselves have proven time and again that this is not their agenda.