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Re: Ok Then, Get Me My Logo Without ExploitSourcing

Andrey Cquence — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:34:08 -0000

Me, I don't trust my dentist that much and I see no good way to figure out if he's really good or not. I don't have the knowledge for this. I can only see samples of his past work, but again I have to do a hell of a research for them to make sense. So in this world, I think, it all comes to teaching people about what you do and helping them to decide in that way. It would help to build trust. In the end, I think it's much easier to have a person whom you can trust and pay them for doing logo (even those same 150$) instead of relying on a judgement of 50 designers in a contest. To do massive research before you do everything is very time consuming. When you choose a contest, you're basically saying: I don't trust anybody to work with me to figure out what I need and then do the best work for my needs. That's why you all going to create a concept for me, and then I will ask you to iterate and tell you what to do. I don't trust that your judgement about logos is better than mine.

I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't be part of logo creation process. But In my opinion the client should be doing the part that he knows best — providing information about his business. And the designer should be doing what he knoas best. Of course, I think designers on 99designs are focusing more on different skills than designers who don't do spec work. So it is a matter of which skill the client chooses to use. If he wants to tell dentist what to do, then he probably goes to 99dentists.

Re: Ok Then, Get Me My Logo Without ExploitSourcing

Andrey Cquence — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:56:29 -0000

So, in the agency world how many designers you get to do concepts for you? 3? 20? 50?

There isn't other service to do this, because it's not realistic to expect people to do concepts for free like on 99designs. It happens (like people play lotteries and spend their money on casinos, and there's lots of them, from what I know), but it's not realistic to expect good designers to do that.

The question you should be asking yourelf, I think, is about the quality of those concepts you get. I think when you pay to one designer, you are providing the information you can provide and then relying on his judgement, on his expertise to make a decisions for you. If you would design cars the same way, what would it be? Hey, let's get 10 car designers, let them all do their job and then let us decide which design is better. If you are so good at making decisions like that, then I think you can draw a logo by yourself. If you are not, then you should think about trusting someone's skills like you trust your dentist, or whatever. You don't go asking dentists to provide you with sample work.

That's just my opinion. I'm interested to know other people's thoughts on this.

Re: Ok Then, Get Me My Logo Without ExploitSourcing

Andrey Cquence — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 05:00:42 -0000

That's interesting.

Re: About

Andrey Cquence — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:56:08 -0000

Nice theme. Congrats. :)

Re: http://cquence-a.tumblr.com/post/1454076333

Andrey Cquence — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:59:22 -0000

Tranks for comment. Would you make a different concept if the client didn't like your concept at all for some reason? It's a bit hard to imagine that situation when you get enough information, but I guess for some types of projects it's possible.

Re: http://cquence-a.tumblr.com/post/1454076333

Andrey Cquence — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:14:53 -0000

Thank you for your comment, Courtney. My thinking is the same, but some people disagree, as you can see. Some clients like to have options, so they also go to crowdsourcing sites to get them.

Re: The Marketing Feeling

Andrey Cquence — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:44:34 -0000

I think I don't want customers or any people around me making poor choices. Because, as we see, not everything that tastes good and feels good while you consuming it is good. I wouldn't like to be around people that sell and consume crap.

I'm not sure what I think about Apple in this regard. I don't have any Apple products but I admire their design and marketing. I guess I think buying an Apple product is certainly not as bad for a person as consuming unhealthy foods. After all most of their products probably helping people to do work. Drug dealers on the other hand can be great marketers but what they are selling is absolutely wrong.

Re: http://blog.cquence-a.com/post/2348899721

Andrey Cquence — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:03:11 -0000

Hey, Fernando. If you are more visual, then does it mean that you were not so good with words? I see you have a nice blog. How did you do that?

Re: http://blog.cquence-a.com/post/2348899721

Andrey Cquence — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:12:12 -0000

Cool. Thanks for commenting, Peeke. :)

I realized that I'm almost saying here that a good eye for aesthetics can't be developed, which is not entirely true, although I'm not sure of the extent at which it can be done.

I'll paste a part of my e-mail reply to Alex today, which explains a little more about what I mean:

"I've never been about the theory. I've always been about pure intuitive skills at everything I do. Of course, there are some of the theory that I learned, but never had the hardcore theory based mentality saying that one should learn the theory on design or music before being able to do something good in it. So I guess my breaking down into one or another comes from that. Sure I agree that it's better to employ both, I probably should spend more time on learning the theory of whatever I'm interested at. But I think I feel the pain of those people who think that if they don't know the theory, they don't have any skills or have lesser skills for, let's say, making beautiful design than those people with PhD you wrote about, who are able to write huge papers about why they do what they do and why it's good. And it's not true, of course."

Re: http://cquence-a.tumblr.com/post/1454076333

Andrey Cquence — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 05:44:30 -0000

Thanks, Peeke.

I know that some designers present three concepts as a rule, it's a personal choice. I think my way, agreeing with Jeff, is to present a client the idea which I think is the best I can come up with for his brief, which of course I should study very carefully, and only if the client thinks it doesn't fit, then I would create another concept based on new feedback. But creating three concepts (in my mind, as I am web designer, that means three finished designs of a home page) just for the client to have a choice, I don't think I like that. I understand that some clients may want to have such choice. It's a question of how you want to position yourself or how you like to approach your work.

Re: Вэ тамбллог

Andrey Cquence — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:21:28 -0000

на список ру пользователей можно не посылать, я его прочесал. может мне другое интересно тогда.

Re: Вэ тамбллог

Andrey Cquence — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:02:50 -0000

хорошая фича (:

Re: Вэ тамбллог

Andrey Cquence — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:03:54 -0000

Одну штучку я выкладывал. http://cquence.tumblr.com/p...
Но у них разные есть, с вокалом.

Re: Вэ тамбллог

Andrey Cquence — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:12:07 -0000

А мне больше нравятся The Dining Rooms, или Cinematic Orchestra. Не патриот я.

Re: Вэ тамбллог

Andrey Cquence — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:50:26 -0000

Альбом скачал, не слышал раньше эту группу. Радует. Thanks for sharing (:

Re: Hope You Don't Mind...

Andrey Cquence — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:55:57 -0000

Hi. Nice blog. Maybe you know where can i externally host mp3s for free and be able to use tumblr player? I like divshare, but it comes with its own embed player wich i don't like too much.