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Re: Jesus as a Jew?

chasewarren — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:50:11 -0000

I agree with Skarsaune, when we, including myself, think of Jesus the image is a white man dressed in a white robe, with brown hair and a perfectly even beard. It's sad but I think if we saw what Christ's normal appearance once was many wouldn't believe it.

Re: Dorothy Rabinowitz takes on Deepak Chopra

chasewarren — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:07:24 -0000

Merry Christmas Dale, thanks for your posts! [Still reading your book, I like it alot!]

Re: Dorothy Rabinowitz takes on Deepak Chopra

chasewarren — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:27:00 -0000

Deepak* not Doopak ugh!

Re: Dorothy Rabinowitz takes on Deepak Chopra

chasewarren — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:14:15 -0000

Dorothy's article was well-written and the point was clear. I would have to agree it is a bit strange that Deepak Chopra is considered an expert on terrorism. What happened in India was tragic, of course, but blaming Americans for pushing the Muslims does not make much sense in my opinion. Thanks for posting the video & link.
- Chase

Re: What are the biblical roles of husbands and wives?

chasewarren — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:56:58 -0000

Dale said:
"I would challenge your view of pastor as the 'head.' In the church, there is Person called the 'head.' That is Jesus. And it is actually rather dubious that Scripture says we are to obey our pastors."

I 100% agree with you on, Jesus Christ is the head of the church, not sure how one could argue otherwise. My choice for the word "head" was vague my intent was the pastor is considered the physical leader of the church.

Once more I agree that we are to listen to our pastors, however, when I spoke of "conflict" amongst one another it was meant to be stated as this: if, for example, the church is unsure of secondary doctrine then together the pastor and the congregation would work as one to come to the best biblically based resolution.

Dale said:
"I think you're on track for the 'sanctifying the wife' bit. I've always thought this was the job of Jesus. He's presenting the church spotless already, so why does the husband have to add to it? Is Jesus not enough for a woman? Are they suggesting the man stands alone in Christ but a woman must stand with man? So must women be married to be sanctified? (This is why so many women think theologically they are subpar if they are not married.... My view is that this is a terrible reading of the text.)"

At first I was unsure on what the actual word "sanctify" meant. Now I do understand what it means and personally I do not see a woman needing a man for salvation as biblical.

Dale said:
"I personally don't think 'submission' there connotes authority under. Submission can be other things as well when used in non-military contexts..."

Not sure I understand your point there, if submission is not another authority above your own (again not always the authority forced, could also be you personally giving someone that authority over you) then what is submission?

-Chase

Re: What are the biblical roles of husbands and wives?

chasewarren — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:09:38 -0000

Dale said:
"Notice how he says men shy away from leadership (is this the nature of men historically or a 21st century construction?)"

I would personally say it is a 21st century construction. And here is why: in the past prior to this century women were not placed as equals generally speaking, so men would in a sense be forced into leadership. Now you do have a queen in some countries, however, they were looked upon as leader by their blood, and as seen from both men and women blood-line does not affect leadership capabilities. So most likely the men who were made leaders by society led as the "shy" men in our time, which looking in history many can be spotted.

I noticed how he emphasized the husbands leadership, then team, then leadership once more especially when he spoke about tie-breaker. Now I am not married so I cannot understand his point completely, but I do know according to the Bible you are one flesh once you are married, so as for the husband being the final authority over the wife I am not so sure I would agree. "The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife."
[I Corinthians 7:4]

Is a woman to be submissive to her husband? Yes, that is a biblical principle, yet in the 21st century the word "submissive" is automatically presumed negative. In the family the wife is to be submissive so as one the two can be most effective, not so the wife can be "silenced" in conflict.

As seen in the church the pastor is the "head" and the congregation is submissive to him, they are not being slaves or servants they are merely placing the authority he has over theirs. When conflict arises amongst one another the church works together as an equal voice so as one body in Christ they can be productive.

Likewise for the husband sanctifying his wife, not entirely sure I would agree because once more I believe they are one flesh that as one should hold one another accountable.

-Chase