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Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:25:01 -0000

Gary let us know when you get your degree in structural engineering ok? Then at least you might be in a position to critique real engineers. Of course your credibility issues will still have to be overcome. I will hand it to you JREFers though, you are persistent and not afraid at all to say ridiculous obviously untrue things no matter how bad you look doing so.

I am done with this thread. Not interested in talking to people like you who don't even care about the truth. People know Gary and your efforts to supress the truth have failed. Good riddens traitor scumbag.

Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:04:35 -0000

Kamal S. Obeid, BS CE, MS CE, SE, PE – Licensed Professional Structural and Civil Engineer, State of California.

•Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"Only recently have I begun to examine the structural collapse of the buildings. Photos of the steel, evidence about how the buildings collapsed, the unexplainable collapse of WTC 7, evidence of thermite in the debris as well as several other red flags, are quite troubling indications of well-planned and controlled demolition." http://www.ae911truth.org

•Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 700 Architects and Engineers:

Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:55:59 -0000

Gary once you lose your credibility, which you have, it is not easy to get it back.

Gerry,

You don't have a leg to stand on. Of those experts who have examined 9/11 the VAST majority reject the official conspiracy theory.

Extensive evidence can be found on the following sites supported by hundreds of credentialed experts and eye-witnesses. Check it out for yourself folks. Don’t let truth deniers such as Gerry/Gary distract you, investigate it for yourself. You can make up your own mind without them telling you what to think can’t you?

www.Patriotsquestion911.com
www.Stj911.org
www.Ae911truth.org

Google videos watch for free:

Zero an Investigation into 9/11
911 Mysteries
Zeitgeist the Movie
Terrorstorm
Loose Change 2nd edition

Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:00:52 -0000

Gary your credibility is gone. You lied.

Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:44:42 -0000

Gerry said: "Why argue with a bunch of armchair architects and self-professed experts in demolitions?"

Let's take a look at what some of those "armchair" experts have to say.

Hugo Bachmann, PhD -- Professor Emeritus and former Chairman of the Department of Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology.

"In my opinion the building WTC 7 was, with great probability, professionally demolished,"

William Rice, PE -- Registered Professional Civil Engineer who worked on structural steel and concrete buildings in Boston, New York, and Philadelphia.

"Even if Newton's Law is ignored, the prevailing theory would have us believe that each of the Twin Towers inexplicably collapsed upon itself crushing all 287 massive columns on each floor while maintaining a free-fall speed as if the 100,000, or more, tons of supporting structural-steel framework underneath didn't exist."

Danny Jowenko -- Proprietor, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie B.V., a European demolition and construction company.

Jeff Hill: Are you still sticking by your comments where you say it must have been a controlled demolition?

Danny Jowenko: Absolutely.

So in short Gerry you don't have a leg to stand on. Of those experts who have examined 9/11 the VAST majority reject the official conspiracy theory.

www.Patriotsquestion911.com
www.Stj911.org
www.Ae911truth.org

Google videos watch for free:

Zero an Investigation into 9/11
911 Mysteries
Zeitgeist the Movie
Terrorstorm
Loose Change 2nd edition

Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:27:47 -0000

Gary has been completely impeached and exposed as a liar in my previous post. Here I will repeat it since he failed to respond.

Gary,

The towers were demolished with explosives, end of story. People like yourself clinging desperately onto illusions are a dying breed. More people every single day are waking up to the truth. Gary you cannot defeat the truth no matter how you try all you can do is try, like you are, to supress it. It isn't working Gary. People know Gary. They know. Your statement above is not going to convince anyone Gary because it is full of lies and obvious deceptions. For the record and just so others can verify that you are in fact a liar lets take a look at the following statement you made.

"Coupling the fact that there was no visual or telltale sign of explosives being used, the case for their existence is really pretty silly."

An absolute lie and quite an obvious one at that. Here are some quotes from eye witnesses that show us what Gary is, a damned liar and a traitor trying to misslead people about the mass murder of nearly 3000 people. He probably doesn't even get paid to promote propaganda all day which makes him even more pathetic if that is possible.

Chief Frank Cruthers -- WTC survivor. Chief of Department, FDNY. Incident commander on 9/11.

"And while I was still in that immediate area, the south tower, 2 World Trade Center, there was what appeared to be at first an explosion. It appeared at the very top, simultaneously from all four sides, materials shot out horizontally. And then there seemed to be a momentary delay before you could see the beginning of the collapse."

Firefighter Kenneth Rogers -- WTC survivor. Ladder 16, FDNY.

"We were just waiting for our assignment and then there was an explosion in the south tower, which according to this map, this exposure just blew out in flames. A lot of guys left at that point. I kept watching. Floor after floor after floor. One floor under another after another and when it hit about the fifth floor, I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing. I was there in '93."

Officer Craig Bartmer -- WTC survivor. NYPD officer.

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down. That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did -- and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I don't know what the fear is coming out and talking about it? I don't know -- but it's the truth.”

Firefighter Richard Banaciski -- WTC survivor. Ladder 22, FDNY

"We were there, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions."

Barry Jennings -- WTC survivor. Witness before the 9/11 Commission. Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority. Was in WTC Building 7 on 9/11.

"Me and Mr. Hess, Corporation Counsel [of New York City], were on the 23th floor [of WTC 7]. I told him we gotta get out of here. We started walking down the stairs. We get to the 8th floor. Big Explosion. Blew us back into the eighth floor."

Hursley Lever -- WTC Survivor. An American Building Maintenance mechanic. 12 years at the WTC.

"I was in the B-4 level. I heard a bomb. So, I said, 'Probably a transformer blew up.' So I step back, finish what I had to finish, and I started towards the door again. And there came a big blast with a big ball of fire. And that's when I got hit. It hit me right back down on the ground and I realized my ankle was shattered."

Lastly the visual record is loaded with "tell tale" signs of explosions search youtube for "9/11" and "explosion" and you will get plenty of evidence. Remember this folks, remember who lied to you, remember them all well for they are truely traitors.

Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:36:19 -0000

Gary,

"Coupling the fact that there was no visual or telltale sign of explosives being used, the case for their existence is really pretty silly."

Chief Frank Cruthers -- WTC survivor. Chief of Department, FDNY. Incident commander on 9/11.

Firefighter Kenneth Rogers -- WTC survivor. Ladder 16, FDNY.

Officer Craig Bartmer -- WTC survivor. NYPD officer.

Firefighter Richard Banaciski -- WTC survivor. Ladder 22, FDNY

Barry Jennings -- WTC survivor. Witness before the 9/11 Commission. Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority. Was in WTC Building 7 on 9/11.

Hursley Lever -- WTC Survivor. An American Building Maintenance mechanic. 12 years at the WTC.

Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:57:44 -0000

ARUP is trying to sell their fire protection studies. If they had any integrity whatsoever they would openly support a new investigation of 9/11 and renounce NIST as the lying sacks of shit they really are.

Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:06:23 -0000

What are your engineering credentials Gary? What degrees do you hold?

Need I say more?

Re: Daily 49er - Some conspiracy theorists’ Sept. 11 skepticism teeters on idiocy

atomicbomb — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:13:53 -0000

Gary,

Our investigation is moving along just fine no thanks to people like yourself who are just falling all over themselves to try and stop it or hinder it any way they can. We have plenty of evidence to make our case the only trouble is the "lawmakers" at the top are, like you, trying to block the truth from comming out, probably to cover their own asses. Their power and control is failing just like your kind is failing and vanishing. The NYCAN ballot initiative for a new "official" investigation will easily pass and the perps ass is grass once the misled public gets to hear the truth we have compiled and the experts on our side such as:

Scott C. Grainger, BS CE, PE – Licensed Professional Civil Engineer and/or Fire Protection Engineer in the States of Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, Utah, Virginia, Washington, and Wyoming. Owner of Grainger Consulting, Inc., a fire protection engineering firm (23 years). Former Chairman, Arizona State Fire Code Committee. Former President of the Arizona Chapter of the Society of Fire Protection Engineers. Current Member of the Forensic Sciences Committee and the Fire Standards Committee of ASTM International (formerly American Society for Testing and Materials ). Senior Member, National Academy of Forensic Engineers.
•Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"Approximately 50% of my work is forensic. I am licensed in 9 States. In addition to my forensic work, a good portion of my work is in the design of structural fireproofing systems.

All three [WTC] collapses were very uniform in nature. Natural collapses due to unplanned events are not uniform." http://www.ae911truth.org

People like you Gary are pathetic and cowardly excuses for human beings. A real American patriot would demand the truth about 9/11 and demand justice for the victims and families. You sir are a traitor to your country and a brown noser to murderers. Have a nice day.