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Re: Second Webclip for The Rager (EP403)

Zara — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:22:53 -0000

Well, I do because that is what I see on the show. Stefan is a great guy on the whole, and tbh I really don't care that he's a ripper, the guy didn't choose to be one. Yes, he can be pretty evil, but still I don't blame him. However, Damon has more control over his actions, and has done a lot more worse things in the show for no particular good reasons, except that he was 'bored' or hurt. That's fine because it's understandable, but I love him regardless because he too is a pretty stand-up guy when he isn't trying to break the Bro and family code every episode.

Stefan tries to be a good person because he wants to, otherwise he'd ripper it up all he likes. It's not for other people, he has been doing this for a long time now, even when he was literally 'alone in the world' so it's for himself, not others.

Well, DE have no middle ground. It's all friendship and caring and then just lust. Whereas, SE have that perfect middle-ground. They have a pretty solid friendship within their romantic relationship. It's pretty awesome.

You are misunderstanding me. And Damon doesn't hide his pain that well because we see it, but yes I see your point. I just think Damon still cares for her, and I'd go as far and say that he still loves her, but it's too painful, so he displaces/projecs it onto Elena. I'm not saying he doesn't love Elena in her own right, because he does, just that now he is obsessively in love with Elena because of Kat's rejections.

Also, what you're stating is backing up my belief that Elena doesn't think Damon is worth the risk of losing Stefan in the romantic sense. So, I would say that her love for Stefan is greater than it is for Damon.

P.S. There is a reason why Stefan is my favourite, and it's not like I'm hyping him up, I'm not because he has an ugly side too, but it's because he doesn't want to or doesn't give into it is what makes me love, respect and admire him. It's a great strength. I know that's why many fans don't like him, because they think it's boring or fake or whatever.

Furthermore, Rose saw that side of him, and they were just lovely together. She was/is perfect for him. I'm hoping Meredith can be Rose 2.0 for him. I multi-ship Damon with almost everyone, and I don't understand the DE hype. I like them as friends, that is all.

Re: Second Webclip for The Rager (EP403)

Zara — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:32:29 -0000

Stefan isn't 'denying' anything. He and everyone knows that he has this 'ripper' side inside of him and what not. It's more like a medical disorder. It's not his fault, okay? That shouldn't define him, and it truly isn't who he is at his core - his humanity. Yes, biologically it may be, but he doesn't want to be this soulless monster that kills innocent people for their blood just because it's in his nature. He hates himself when he gives into that because it's horrible, and goes against his beliefs.

Stefan dealt with it in S3. Don't you remember what Stefan told Klaus in 3x19? Also, doesn't he love Damon despite everything, Elena too? So, that kind of backfires.

Re: Second Webclip for The Rager (EP403)

Zara — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:15:21 -0000

Yep, the threesome thing won't work because 1) Stefan isn't that kind of guy, and I don't think Elena would be comfortable with that situation either. 2) What you said 3) It would kind of be repetitive since Kat wanted that.

Yeah, that's why I thought Elena was going to choose Damon in the end of S3, or choose neither, but in my heart, deep down, I knew there was some chance that she would pick Stefan. So, it was a three-way tie for me. The love triangle would kind of be over if Delena did happen, I mean the 'sexual tension' etc. will die and their relationship will burn out, and not last, and she'll end up alone for a little while, and then she'll just get back together with Stefan. The triangle would be finished. The main/central premise of the show resolved in a season, and they don't want that solved until the of S6, not S4, but it could be somewhat resolved by then. Who knows?

My explanation is that Elena's feelings for Damon are not strong enough to overpower her love for Stefan. Yes, Elena cares about Damon and that she is attracted to him, but that is it. However, she is in love with Stefan. Delena is a big question mark, because both of them are not in love with the other, yes they love each other a lot, but that is all. I know I'll probably get a lot of hate for it, but it's true. Damon got 'over' Kat too soon, I mean 2x01 pretty much showed that he doesn't really care as long as someone who is/was romantically involved with Stefan (and who he also loves), chooses him first. It doesn't matter who it is, and since he thinks that he has no chance with Kat after her rejecting him outright in that episode, but the thing is that some people don't understand is that she does love him, but she just doesn't admit it to him, because she is frightened, not Elena.

Re: Second Webclip for The Rager (EP403)

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:03:36 -0000

But Stefan won't like/love/accept himself if he shows his 'true colours'. It's not who he wants to be. There's nothing wrong with striving to be as good as you can and better yourself, and wanting that for your loved ones and motivating them to do so. Is there? Nope.

Re: Second Webclip for The Rager (EP403)

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:01:34 -0000

Yep, it will be since Stefan gets a lot of hate (Damon does get hate, but he gets a lot of love too) and yeah, I love Damon myself, despite being a Stelena shipper. I really feel bad for the guy, and he is appreciated, but this doesn't mean Stefan should be hated. I love both brothers a lot, and I am Team Salvatore above all, so I really dislike the hate on both brothers, and the whole SE Vs. DE thing. I just really don't like the love triangle, and what it's doing to the characters and the fandom. I don't really care if Delena happens or not. I'm over that, and I have been a fan of them in a relationship. I do like them as friends though. This 'Will they, won't they?' thing is old and boring for me. It doesn't faze me too much. Although, I would feel bad for Stefan if DE does happen, just like I feel bad for Damon being all alone and not being 'picked' as first choice, so I can understand why he's acting the way he is, and why he gets a lot of love from the fans.

I'm sure Stefan/SE fans will be heartbroken by that prospect, but it's all give and take. It will just increase people's love for Stefan.

Re: The Vampire Diaries November Sweeps Highlights from the CW

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:00:49 -0000

I agree. Although, I wouldn't say 'she was so confused', because sadly she just used Damon as a replacement for Stefan in S3, and as a result gained those 'feelings' during then. I mean, she cared about him as a friend before, but it wasn't until S3, that she started having other feelings e.g. sexual/lust etc.

I just don't know how Stefan was 'dishonest' with Elena though. It's not that Damon 'understands her', but the situation and she really didn't want to spoil and ruin Stefan's happiness, and their happiness as a couple. It's like a cycle, it's either that they are both happy or they are both sad. It's never usually that they both feel differently.

Caroline is awesome, and should help out, but then what would happen to Delena? They would have absolutely no proper scenes, if Damon wasn't 'helping' her, and Stelena would have no obstacles either if Caroline was helping, instead of Damon. It's just all for the sake of the love triangle BS business.

Re: The Vampire Diaries November Sweeps Highlights from the CW

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:52:21 -0000

At least Katherine was honest. I actually quite liked the triangle back in 1864. If only Kat didn't compel Stefan, then I could be on-board for Steferine, but I still they're pretty hot and BA. I ship Datherine like crazy, so I'm hoping that they are endgame. Also, I'm really loving Dabekah too. Either way I'm happy.

I'm not Elena's biggest fan, probably the worst female character, if not character on the show for me. Yet, I still do sympathise with her, but yeah I'm Team Salvatore, so I don't like her getting in the way, even if she doesn't mean to, but she does.

Stefan better give her the boot, if she goes too far with Damon. Elena is a master manipulator, yes both Damon and Stefan manipulate but Elena does the most, yet no one calls her out on this in the fandom, very rarely.

Re: The Vampire Diaries November Sweeps Highlights from the CW

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:46:18 -0000

Stefan 'being wrong' and Damon 'is always the hero'? LMAO. Sorry, but Elena herself said Stefan made the 'right' decision, and Damon is the anti-hero, and he isn't always heroic. Yes, he has his moments, but Stefan has done a lot more heroic acts for everyone in MF than Damon has. I'm not hating, I'm just being honest.

Re: The Vampire Diaries November Sweeps Highlights from the CW

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:43:10 -0000

Hey, Caroline goes by herself and Tyler goes with Hayley. I think that's more telling about who is the one breaking up. Also, there are quite a lot Klaroline scenes in 4x07 as well. Also, there is no Delena or Klaroline dance. Stefan may just be busy trying to find a cure or something, just like Damon will be next episode, maybe because Stefan couldn't find one?

The dance could be April and Damon, since April is supposed to be like S1 human Elena and what not. I want a Klaroline dance scene though :( I don't care about Delena tbh, if they dance, good for their fans, if they don't, doesn't affect me at all.

Re: Second Webclip for The Rager (EP403)

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:42:23 -0000

It's not about that. It's about the fact that Damon took advantage of Elena's situation. End of story. Also, it's disrespectful to both Stefan and Elena as individuals, as well as them being in a committed relationship again. OMG!

Can you blame Stefan for being 'insecure'? Nope, because history could repeat itself, and he doesn't want it to because of the damage it would do to their bond, which was already kind of destroyed because of Kat, and then restored as much as it could be afterwards. It would be like nothing has changed since the Pilot, which quite frankly is a waste.

Re: Second Webclip for The Rager (EP403)

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:38:13 -0000

Damon can be petty and jealous in that regard, and it's not an attractive quality. But, I can't blame him for feeling that way since his father, Katherine and now Elena have all chosen Stefan before him. I do feel bad for the guy, but it's not fair to take it out on Stefan; it's not his fault he's so loved. He should take out his frustration on Elena, instead of other people. Even she said for him to do that. Although, if he did that, Elena would be sick of him and the love triangle will just flop even more than it is now. Delena fans wouldn't be too pleased either, since they wouldn't be getting their 'sexual tension'/'sexy' scenes or whatever. Although, I'm sure some of them would spin it in that favour. I just don't really care for it.

Re: Second Webclip for The Rager (EP403)

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:34:46 -0000

I don't necessarily agree with that point. She doesn't truly see Damon for who he is yet. She still accuses him of things he hasn't done AKA thinking the worst of him e.g. blowing up the council etc. and she can't trust him to put her loved ones before her or to not kill them in a rage e.g. Jeremy, Matt, and even Ric. Yes, Elena needs Damon but she needs Stefan too. Just in different ways, and that is perfectly fine.

Also, the love triangle would be moot if either Damon or Elena don't 'need' each other or whatever. There has to be some reason for interactions, otherwise there's not much point, but prolonging this triangle of doom is just annoying, and it makes me dislike Delena, and I do like them as friends, just not in the romantic sense.

I challenge the writers' to put Delena together, and see how that plays out tbh. It would be better than what shit is going on now. Furthermore, it will allow role-reversal in the fandom and see what it's really like in the others' shoes. It would be interesting to see the reactions :D

Re: Second Webclip for The Rager (EP403)

Zara — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:26:40 -0000

That's precisely the point. Damon kind of took advantage of the situation for his own sexual pleasure. Yes, he had good intentions and wanted to help her, but he could have told her what he meant by 'personal'. Also, he was the one who said 'Don't tell Stefan' but then he ends up accidentally on purpose blurting it out. I mean, I love Damon to bits but that was not cool.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:48:48 -0000

That's cool because I love Damon too, and I don't bring any of the stuff from the past e.g. the controversial JNSI because well, no one cares anymore, and neither do I. Everyone on the show got over it, and so did I. I still don't justify it though, but I understand that Damon was not in right state of mind. If anything, I'm Team Salvatore/Defan above all, because I don't like seeing either Salvatore hurt in general, especially by Elena, and I don't like seeing her hurt either, but they (Delena) are not going to get my sympathy if they are going to do this hanky panky business. It's either just be together, and be cruel to be kind and just tell Stefan if they want to be together, or just end this silly, funny business. It's just not productive, and yes I hate the love triangle, because it paints them all in a negative light, some more than others. Delena seems like fanservice for the most part these days, just for the sake of keeping the main premise of the show (the love triangle of doom) to keep going and to keep the fans happy, Joshua Butler himself says that TVD tries to please all fans, and they have to keep Delena having 'moments' with Stelena fans giving up on them. It's a tough job, no doubt, but I really don't know how they're going to keep it going in S5 and S6, unless Delena does happen, but I just don't see how it'll work in the long-term since the new vamp, and the darkness etc. will die down after a while, so that won't be that much of a viable possibility.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:00:59 -0000

First of all— to have Elena completely change into the
person other than what we know to be Elena Gilbert is character assassination.
Look at Stefan. Didn’t we all see him turn into someone completely the opposite
of what we knew him as in S3? Yes, we did. But we also watched him return
because to have Stefan Salvatore a ripper for life would destroy the show.
They’ll never turn her completely into this other person just to ‘choose’
Damon. That was my whole point. Her choice to be with Stefan as a human just
means more now. It was of a pure nature. She’s a vampire now, yes but the
writers will never permanently change who she is.

“Elena is warm, and she’s kind, and she’s caring, and she’s
selfless.”

THAT is the statement for Elena Gilbert. Whatever darkness
she enters into, the writers will always have her return from it and into the
light. And are the rules being forgotten about here? Everything is magnified.
She may feel even deeper for Damon, but she LOVES Stefan and he was her choice.
I think that means she’ll love him even more now.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:20:55 -0000

Well, I don't think Stebekah and Delena would even last for, even 'a little while' tbh, if they do happen, so I doubt that is really an issue, but I get what you mean.

No, that’s a valid interpretation. I sometimes feel the same
way. I just feel like she has an unhealthy obsession with Stefan and have
delved a bit with why. I think the reason I find it significant is that she’s
supposed to be so selfish and yet she gave up her chance to be free of Klaus (
what’s she’s wanted for so long) to try and help save Damon—then admits that
she did love him. If anything, I think there’s some unfinished business there
but I don’t disagree with what you said.

Also, I'd like to add that she knows how obsessive and protective etc. Damon can get, so she kind of did him a favour in 2x01 by letting him go, even though it was brutally done, so he can move on, and not worry about Klaus chasing her down, because inevitably he would end up in the cross-fire dying for her AGAIN. Also, how would Delena get any development if she just said 'Yes, let's run into the sunset!' in 2x01 to Damon, and well he would be MIA with Kat for the majority of the show, and he's a main, so that's not really feasible, and Poor Nina Dobrev, if she had to do more scenes as Kat, whilst being Elena. Also, it would affect the bond between Stefan and Damon, and that's an integral part of the love triangle as well. So, it just wouldn't work. Furthermore, I think she is frightened by how 'real' their relationship was e.g. no compulsion, and that she can yell from the rooftops that she loves Stefan, but in reality, it's not going to go anywhere because he's with Elena and is deeply in love with her. So, yeah Datherine IMO have major potential. Steferine have potential as well, but I see them having more of a frenemy bond of some sort. Like they would work together if they had to, but Datherine work really well together, and Damon did trust her with their plan in 3x09, and they both genuinely still care about each other, and they have been through the most shit together in the past 145 years. So, yeah I can go and say that they are probably the most 'epic' relationship on the entire show. I'm hoping for a Datherine endgame, but in the meanwhile I would like Dabekah to hook up again, or a few times. LOL. And then when Kat returns have a Kat/Damon/Rebekah love triangle, and there could also be a Damon/Rebekah/Matt love triangle going too. Awesome, right? And then after a while, since JP hinted at Matt/Caroline giving it a try, a Caroline/Matt/Rebekah triangle, which would lead on from the Klaus/Caroline/Tyler triangle, and there is the love triangle of Caroline/Tyler/Hayley as well. Wow! So many freakin' triangles, I am confused, but hopefully you get it. LOL.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:56:16 -0000

Again it’s all just reaching. Some people are trying to look
more into things than what’s really there. Both Stefan and Elena have a lot of
individual angst or issues within themselves that like to post threats but what
you see is both of them growing together and still loving each other no matter
what. We saw Elena loving Stefan when she didn’t know what he was. We saw Elena
loving Stefan when she found out he was a vampire. We saw Elena loving Stefan
when she didn’t know about his past and we saw Elena STILL loving Stefan when
she found out that he has a dark side and then an even darker side still. See a
pattern? It doesn’t matter. They still love each other even if it pulls them
away at times. A lot of it is the internal struggles they face within
themselves individually. The other person just never gives up on them. They
wait. They fight. They STILL love. That’s the point.

And yeah, Damon and Elena don’t put on their party dresses
and act like a lady and a gentlemen most of the time. I get why that’s
appealing but just be honest for five minutes. Elena and Stefan just want to be
good people and sometimes struggle with that. Is that any less real? Think
about it.

Stefan and Elena also try and face their issues the best
they can. Haven’t you noticed that they've overcome all the obstacles and
reunite EVERY time? Why is it real for one pairing that does this and deemed
fake for the other?

Not only that, but what great obstacle has Damon and Elena
overcome? Where did it get them? Not saying Damon and Elena haven’t been
through shit because they have, but Stefan and Elena’s relationship and LOVE
has been threatened time and time again and just when you might have thought it
could be over- they come back stronger than ever. There’s something to be said
about a great love that defies all the odds. Stefan and Elena have that so far.
What does Damon and Elena have? Something, perhaps. But whatever it is doesn’t
measure up to that.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:02:14 -0000

Except that I don’t see where all this blasted denial is
coming from? SO you’re a vampire and that makes it ok to embrace to such a
point where killing or hurting innocent people is accepted because being a
vampire means you have no morality right? Wrong. I’m sorry but why is it called
denial when you care, or want to try and do the right thing and do right by
others? That’s denial why? I see that as recognition that it doesn’t have to be
that way if you don’t want it to be. The fact that you can ‘switch’ your
emotions off implies that there is an ‘on’ button too. Stefan hid his darkness
out of shame. He self loathes and feels tremendous guilt. Why is it so hard to
connect the dots there? It makes complete sense that he wouldn’t want to
advertise it. I’m not trying to advocate Stefan hiding things but he wasn’t
trying to be malicious about it. It was more about how he views himself not how
others view him. Not only that but why go on about an argument that might have
had the shelf life of a week back in S1? It’s over. Move on. If Stefan hiding
those things were to make anyone affected by it the writers would have done so
back in S1. It’s time to let go.

There’s nothing wrong with liking that dynamic of a
relationship. Many people do because for some fans it’s about the preference in
who these two men are and then how Elena responds to them. This statement does
nothing but to reiterate the point that we all have different view points.

This is just reaching way too far. I mean my god— have they
never told their mother, father, brother, sister, boyfriend, girlfriend,
husband, wife that everything will be okay out of comfort? My god. I’ll never
do it again because then I’m just being fake, manipulative and unloving.

Damon sure as hell thought of his own ‘happiness’ when he
made the moves on Elena. Not hating—just saying.

Damon most definitely lashed out unfairly towards Matt. I
think Stefan’s speech meant something other than what everyone initially took
it as, but that’s just my opinion. Personally, Matt was being ungrateful and
already giving up on his human life just before it has even begun. It reminds me
of what Stefan said to Elena in 2x15 about wanting her ‘to fight for it’ and
Elena has sacrificed her life for him, so he should be grateful for being
alive, because Elena would want him to live a normal, happy human life, but if
he just decided that he just doesn’t care about life, and just wallows in self-pity and gives Damon the right to lower the quality of his life through bullying, because that is what he was doing in 4x01 and even allowing him to KILL HIM, then
poor Elena sacrificed her humanity for nothing, and she might as well have just saved herself, but no she was selfless enough not to, and Stefan was selfless enough to respect her decision in that. I know I'm going to get hate for that, but whatever.

I guess we’ll never know how far Damon would have come
because ELENA HAD TO THROW HIM OFF OF MATT.

The writers wanted to show how far he’s come? I’m sorry but
if anything he’s regressing. They even said as much.

Desperation. That’s what this is. It’s a desperate, and
convenient and flawed argument to use against SE. So two people who are trying
to make the best of everything, and not give up or give in is just immature,
and superficial? Yeah because not being able to delay gratification, or not
even trying to do the right thing is the mark of maturity. There’s a difference
between being an realist, and someone with a screwed up moral compass. As
usual, Damon is right about what will or could happen but not always about what
they should do about it. There may be something refreshing about a person who
has no filter and will shove the truth up your ass but that doesn’t mean
positivity and hope are somehow less powerful. It doesn’t mean they are trying
to ignore the truth, but are trying to make the best of it.

Your failings are showing. You’ve talked so much without
even knowing what you’re talking about. It makes me wonder who and what you
really care about.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:36:24 -0000

ROFL OMG—-I’m sorry—hahaha—-but the answer was in the
statement.

they had to have Elena die though for her to choose Damon :/

EXACTLY. How real could they really be real if something THAT dramatic had to happen in order for them to be ‘meant to be.’ Sounds a little too contrived if you ask me.

CREDIT: STELENABEAUTY

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:07:02 -0000

I don't think Stefan truly did love her. It was more to do with his 'ripper' side having a strong infatuation towards her, so I don't really think he was in the right frame of mind. He was mostly 'blacked out' during the 20s any way, all he really cared about was blood. I just think Damon and Rebekah can truly understand each other in ways no one else can, and I think they have great chemistry too. If it's about 'first choice', then Damon and Elena shouldn't really be together either, since Stefan will always be her 'first' and 'best choice', and for her he is tbh.
I really understand the appeal of Stefan and Katherine, and I think they have great chemistry too, but it's more sexual than anything else. I prefer them over Damon and Elena, but they're pretty similar too. Yes, Stefan does bring out Katherine's humanity, but she does love Damon as well, more than what she likes to show and admit, and that's because she's scared of it, because it is real, since there was no compulsion or anything else. How Katherine acts around Damon is an 'act', but she does truly love him, and she is not Stefan's 'first choice' either. I do get what you mean about 'first choice', but does it really matter if two people love each other and can be happy together? And does that mean you should be alone or wait potentially for a long time for a newcomer to arrive, and be their 'first choice'? It seems like a load of hassle. But, I'm fine either way as long as everyone is happy.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:57:52 -0000

Yes, technically they are. Does it matter if they're happy? Everyone needs some form of escapism, and it isn't causing anyone else any harm so what's the big deal?

LMAO. All Elena does is 'hide behind her fake smile' unless Stefan is around. 3x01 is a good case in point, she pretended to be happy at the party, and even said 'I'm happy', but later on she was all upset and crying, because of Stefan not being with her, so yeah, Damon really makes her 'happy'.

Also, Stefan and Elena do deal with issues more maturely than Damon and Elena. Every time, there is a 'bump', Damon lashes out, and takes his anger out on other people e.g. Matt etc. How is that right? So, yeah Elena did some good by calling him out on it.

However, it's Stefan that truly knows how Elena is feeling, and she can be herself around him, without him getting pissed at it, and she has on several occasions called Stefan out on his wrong-doings as well but she wasn't harsh about it in the way she is with Damon at times, so I wouldn't say all what you said applies to only Damon and Elena.

I'm not saying Damon and Elena don't do great things for each other, they do, but I do not romanticise them at all. I just think they're better of as good friends. I couldn't care less about the 'sexual tension', that's just awkward IMO. But, that's my personal opinion, and I respect that people will disagree with my point completely. That's fine, since everyone has a different perspective.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:46:10 -0000

Yeah, but Stefan did try and save Elena first so it was an 'automatic response', and the show would end up down the shit hole, if Stefan did save Elena first since Damon would be dead, possibly the whole vampire race would be extinct, Matt would be dead, Elena would be alive, but dead inside, just like the Pilot, but this time she wouldn't have Stefan to make her feel 'glad to be alive' since all of the blame would fall on him for all that had happened. So, basically no one would be happy, but the only consequence which was inevitable anyway in a sense of Elena turning into a vampire isn't so bad tbh. It would have been lovely to see him save her, but I didn't think anything of it. It is what it is.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:39:33 -0000

But, Stefan and Damon's relationship is very human so of course Stefan would be and still is selfish in regards to Damon's life. Stelena is the most selfless, divine, inhuman kind of love and it is really special, but it also difficult to relate to, unlike the more human-like relationships e.g. Delena etc. I don’t like referring it to as selfish, but at its core it is, but I don’t think it’s particularly negative, just normal but nothing exactly to strive for. Yes, Stefan does love Damon more than Elena but that’s his only family, and he has known him for so long, and it’s an 'unbreakable bond' (Yes, that applies to Stelena too but no matter what, Stefan and Damon will ALWAYS be brothers, and nothing can change that, even if they hate each other). That is not to say he doesn’t love Elena with all his heart and soul because he does, just in a very different way of course. I also stand by the fact that Damon loves Stefan more than Elena, and if it came down to it, he would choose Stefan just like he Stefan did when it comes down to it. I’m Team Salvatore above all, even if I am a hardcore Stelena fan since the Pilot. But, what you said about Stefan in regards to Damon and Elena, can be said about Elena's love for Jeremy and Stefan, of course she's going to choose Jeremy over Stefan, and that's perfectly fine and normal, and Stefan would be fine with that. They are not selfish with each other. I don't think it's fair to apply the same conditions to familial and romantic relationships (or even friendships), especially when Stelena's connection/relationship is in another league of its own. It's about living and being 'glad to be alive', not just existing.

Also, it's unfair to not blame Elena's choice, but to blame Stefan for following through with it. I hope you understand, but if you don't, it's fine, but it's a difference of opinion at the end of the day.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:27:56 -0000

Yeah, you have a point, but Elena does know the kind of love Damon offers (She didn't want it), and she may be tempted, and might even try it out in some way (Who knows in which way) or somewhere down the line, but it won't change who she truly is, and that kind of 'consuming' love is not something that coincides with her character. But, as a vampire things are magnified, judgements are clouded etc. so anything can happen in that regard.

Also, Stelena is more than 'a high school level relationship'. Just because they are both teenagers doesn't mean it is shallow or any of the kind. It's a lot more powerful than Delena IMO.

So, Damon is the mature, adult choice? Seriously? The guy who lashed at Matt for living when he had no say in it? I mean, I love Damon as much as the next person and it's completely understandable why he's angry, but I don't agree with that notion.

Can you blame Elena for not wanting to experience life, when life has been nothing but cruel to her for the most part? She would want safety, and there is nothing wrong with that. Also, doesn't Damon take the whole safety thing more seriously than Stefan? I mean, these people don't even know if they are going to make it out alive by the end of the day. Callback to the Stelena rooftop scene in 4x01. But, I'm sure she will experience life, and yes peole do grow and change. I'd say Elena is pretty mature for her age, because she was forced to grow up in a sense since ALL her parental adult figures have died now, and now she has to look after Jer, but there will obviously be conflict there, since whilst technically she is older, he is 'the man of the house' and the fact that Elena is not mentally in the right frame of mind due to her becoming a vampire and all, so her head is going to be all over the place, and she won't be able to fulfil her duties properly, but I'm sure she'll try her best to be a good 'sister' to him.

We'll see how it goes with Elena leaving her adolescence and entering adulthood and how how it changes the dynamic between Stelena and Delena. I don't know, it's all up in the air, but I just think Delena happening would be so awkward, and there is just so many things wrong about it. I mean, I saw their potential in S1, but the S2 premiere just proved that Damon just wants to be loved more than Stefan and picked first by someone who is important in both of their lives. First it was their father, then Katherine and now Elena. Damon needs to cut his losses and move on. If Elena decides that she loves Damon more or whatever, then she can go after him, otherwise it's just heartbreaking for the poor guy to just be waiting around for something that may never happen. It's not fair to the Delena fans either. Besides, Damon has much more chemistry and compatibility with Rebekah and Katherine. It's too bad Rose died, they could have been amazing together. So sad :( but Damon's happiness is compromised for the sake of Delena. That's not cool.

Re: Extended Promo for Memorial (EP402)

Zara — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:16:05 -0000

I don't think she can drink blood, period. Maybe though, Bonnie can try to fix it, like she does with everything else. It happens in 4x02, her body can't keep down the blood, and rejects every possible source according to the spoilers.