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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Disqus - Latest Comments for Slamfu</title><link>http://disqus.com/by/Slamfu/</link><description></description><atom:link href="http://disqus.com/Slamfu/comments.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2017 17:52:58 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Democrat Doublespeak</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/democrat-doublespeak/#comment-3680809533</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Honestly, how can you make the case for such garbage.  You really do seem to repeat the same incorrect memes pushed by the GOP no matter how often they are proved wrong.   There will be no exodus to other states.   The primary reason people leave this state is because of real estate prices.   Prices which are so high because everyone keeps moving TO states like CA, not away.   Might have something to do with all those $200k/year jobs that were mentioned.  Also, a balanced budget, working schools and roads, cleaner air and water, etc...   Maybe we should follow the KS model, the epitome of what passes for conservative fiscal policy, and which has devastated that state.  Taxes are not "highway robbery" and anyone who says so gets immediately tagged for being a fool in my book.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Even your opening line is misleading and incorrect.   The new tax law is a federal one, the word "Congressional" in Congressional Democrats is solid giveaway, and it lowers taxes on the wealthy, so when they call this new federal tax law a tax break for the wealthy, they are speaking the truth.  They aren't responsible for the laws individual states.  You are twisting words to make a logical and accurate take on the situation appear foolish, but you have to mislead to do it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The removal of the state deductions is a transparent attempt to screw over a lot of blue states.  "Hey guys, we don't get them anyways, lets screw them over to pay for the tax breaks for our big money donors we're dishing out".  I'm looking forward to voters realizing just how bad they got rogered by the Republicans next November.  When will voters learn, the Republicans screw over just about everyone.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2017 17:52:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Anger</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/anger/#comment-3680681805</link><description>&lt;p&gt;jdledell, your approach is commendable, and while a few years ago I might have said the same thing, I simply can't any longer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That lady should have been called out, she should be shamed for her behavior.   If she's going to start hurling insults and berating total strangers in public she should be shamed in public, roundly.   She is not an isolated incident, and we have over the last 20 years or so given a pass to the so many of the most ignorant and mean spirited.   We have been kind, in order to keep some sort of peace, and instead of fostering a sense of meeting in the middle they just keep on taking ground.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We should call out stupid.   Go talk to your average Trump supporter and you will be treated to a landslide of ignorance that is almost impossible to believe.  I am not pussy footing around people anymore.  When I hear someone call Donald Trump a "good businessman", I point out they are stupid.   You simply have to be to believe that at this point.  Republicans are insanely outraged over stuff that simply doesn't exist, and they are forcing the rest of us to live as if their delusions are real.   They think this country is over run with illegal immigrants when in fact illegal immigration under Obama was at it's lowest point in 6 decades.  They wanted beefed up borders, they got it, but they failed to notice they got what they asked for and scream all the louder as if they are being ignored.   There is a word for that and that word is stupid.   But we've given a pass to stupid and it's grown out of control and now we have the most wildly incompetent and craven Congress in living memory with Donald Trump of all people as POTUS.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So while I will be nicer to people, when I hear someone tell me Obama wrecked the economy I simply tell them if they are too dumb to spend 5 minutes on Google or pick up a business section of a newspaper they should STFU and keep their ignorance to themselves.   Loudly.   We should not coddle stupid adults.   We should not give equal measure to the blatantly false and absurd.   To lies that are intentional spread by people with a political axe to grind to trick voters into supporting them.   This is not a left/right issue, that is life.  I am tired of people who have no damn idea what they are talking about telling the rest of us whats wrong with the world.  It was fine up until apparently there were enough of them to take over Congress, the White House, and 2/3rds of the state and local govts, then it's a serious, existential issue.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2017 16:10:40 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Americans Will March If Trump Fires Robert Mueller</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/americans-will-march-trump-fires-robert-mueller/#comment-3594028718</link><description>&lt;p&gt;No, he's just trying to adjust the narrative to say Mueller's investigation shouldn't try to do anything until Trump and the GOP aren't pushing some god awful piece of legislation designed to screw the general public because that way he'll be immune to any legal action against himself.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:04:18 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Years On, First Criminal Charges Are Filed In The Russian Plot To Elect Trump</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/two-years-first-criminal-charges-filed-russian-plot-elect-trump/#comment-3592353697</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Yea we'll be seeing a whole lot more names soon.   The Bank of Cyprus that so much of this money was laundered through had Wilbur Ross as the Senior VP at the time involved in this.   If that name sounds familiar that's because Wilbur Ross is now Secretary Ross of the Commerce Department.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And those firms hired by Manafort, one was the Podesta Group.  Tony Podesta has done a lot of work for Democrats, but in this he was working with Manafort.  He's stepping down as of today.  Nothing like a nice round of indictments to make a fella reassess his work/life balance and decide to spend a little more time with the old family.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Note to DNC, while we call all celebrate what appears to be a big milestone in long road to getting Trump his political dishonorable discharge, you folks might want to stop doing business with the likes of Podesta if you want to even pretend you're still the party of the people.   You know, just in case the Republicans don't screw the pooch hard enough to get you another shot at running things by default and you have to actually earn the votes.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:19:22 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Years On, First Criminal Charges Are Filed In The Russian Plot To Elect Trump</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/two-years-first-criminal-charges-filed-russian-plot-elect-trump/#comment-3592337137</link><description>&lt;p&gt;My guess is that Manafort will do the time.   Even looking at 12 to 15 years at age 68, he'll do it.   Not because he's a stand up loyal guy, but because Manafort never worked for Trump except on paper, he worked for Putin.   And Putin murders people that betray him.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2017 17:09:10 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: The enablers of a debased politics</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/enablers-debased-politics/#comment-3587652142</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I've had my share of conversations with idiots from the liberal side of things to, the GOP doesn't have a monopoly on it.   My problem with today's liberals, a group I count myself amongst, is different.  With Republicans the problem seems to be garbage in, garbage out.   If the stuff that FOX, Rush, Hannity were saying or implying is true were actually true, then I can see thinking like today's average Republican voter.   Their analysis of the facts and picture being presented to them isn't wrong, just that the facts are lies and the picture is absurdly different than reality, therefore their conclusions are equally absurd.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;With liberals the problem is not the facts they are working with, but how they think everyone else should prioritize the issues.   Namely, that whatever their #1 issue is, and its usually a very niche one, is something that everyone else must consider their #1 issue, and if you don't your an idiot.   In their efforts to address the numerous and serious issues regarding how people of color get the deck stacked against they seem to all but say white folks have it good enough so stop complaining.   And also please vote for me.   This doesn't play well to someone making $18k/year working minimum wage for Walmart and struggling to get by.  Climate change is another thing that so many of today's liberals just want to ram down the throats of everyone even after they clearly just don't think it's happening.   Climate change is a huge issue, but if someone refuses to believe it at this point you really need to change tactics and quit expecting people 2 missed payments away from losing their home, or unemployed for a long time, or being bankrupted by paying for college(theirs or their children's), to make that their #1 issue as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You get the point.   Different kind of stupid, but still stupid.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:36:27 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Kelly, who lost son in combat, gives emotional defense of Trump’s calls to military families</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/kelly-lost-son-combat-gives-emotional-defense-trumps-calls-military-families/#comment-3587629770</link><description>&lt;p&gt;That came out like 2 hours after I wrote my comment.   Good grief, can anyone in this administration go one day without making me regret any sympathy at all I might have for them?   It does not appear so.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:22:01 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: The GOPpelgänger Cometh</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/the-goppelganger-cometh/#comment-3587598428</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I have to say that I am constantly amazed at the gullibility of the public and their lack of any sort of BS detector.   Trump once coughed up codeword level intel to the Russian ambassador right in the oval office and sparked an international incident with Israel over it.   This isn't made up BS, this was documented, there was a Russian reporter in the room at the time.   This is also one of MANY reports that Trump is frankly too stupid to trust with sensitive information, something that wa suggested prior to him being sworn in.   Our own intelligence agencies and those of our NATO allies seem pretty convinced Trump and his people are compromised by the Russians.   The public says "meh", or in an all too rare yet very misplaced bout of skepticism lumps such reports into the category of "fake news".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But make up any old BS you want about Hillary Clinton, or Obama, or any Democrat, no matter how implausible or far fetched, and backed up by nothing more than repeated insistence of truth by political enemies with a clear axe to grind, and sure enough we'll be hearing about it in mainstream information sources for years to come.   I swear to God that when I went to the Trump rally last year that was literally across the street from my apartment, out of morbid curiosity, I heard the Vince Foster garbage being earnestly repeated 3 separate times.   The guys who put that sham hit piece together came out ages ago and admitted that was bullshit, as if that shouldn't have been readily apparent, and STILL these rumors are making the rounds.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whoever said a lie can make around the world before the truth gets it's pants on should see us in the internet age.   Now a lie can literally make it around the world in no time worth mentioning and the Truth, having put it's pants on, can't seem to hitchhike it's way to the corner market for a pack of smokes.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:02:01 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: GOP BOMBSHELL: Flake denounces Trump, announces won’t seek re-election</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/gop-bombshell-flake-denounces-trump-announces-wont-seek-re-election/#comment-3584319291</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm more or less with you, not wanting to look a gift horse in the mouth, and I'm glad elected Republicans are denouncing what Trump is doing to an already defiled and shallow political environment.   I'll take their words, and thank them quietly for advancing the ball on ending the Trump presidency.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That being said, they are still Republicans who push god awful policy ideas.  Just last night both Flake and Corker voted to approve a bill further weakening the CFPB and helping large companies to continue to slip forced arbitration agreements into the fineprint on contracts they make their customers sign.   Basically banks and credit card companies, many others, shield themselves from class action lawsuits from customers for the numerous petty frauds they will use on them.   Oh well, I'll take what I can get, but let's not pretend either Corker or Flake are on the side of the average American when it comes to anything short of finally getting on board with the fact our new emperor has no clothes.   McConnell, Ryan, and most of the rest of the GOP are still not missing any opportunities to tell Trump how good he looks in them.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:35:51 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Kelly, who lost son in combat, gives emotional defense of Trump’s calls to military families</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/kelly-lost-son-combat-gives-emotional-defense-trumps-calls-military-families/#comment-3577016707</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Soldiers like Kelly are willing to put their lives on the line to keep this nation safe, and I don't think putting his reputation on the line for similar reasons is far off from that.  Donald Trump's capacity for disaster is profound, and even though Kelly wouldn't be my first choice, he does seem like one of the few actual adults in the White House not only in a position to do but also willing to do anything about Trump's terrifying incompetence.   I see his current role as an extension of work in the military.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:37:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: The enablers of a debased politics</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/enablers-debased-politics/#comment-3576978133</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I really don't get how the GOP still has so much support out there.  As you mentioned, they don't even bother trying to hide it anymore, they are out to screw anyone remotely close to the average citizen so they can help not just the securely wealthy but the uber wealthy to have more money.   And yet millions of poor folks vote for them.  They can start wars for no reason, tank the economy, blow the deficit thru all previously held records, rip healthcare from millions, even prevent hundreds of thousands of people from voting over absurdities, and it's like nothing they do ever sticks to them.   Democrats sneeze wrong and it's a scandal that never goes away and gets top billing in just about every media cycle.  In fact, the GOP simply has to start a rumor that they sneezed wrong and sure enough we'll be hearing about it for the next 8 years or more.   Even if the rumor is absurdly implausible or has been investigated thoroughly and found to be nothing more than a rumor, it is regarded as truth in the eyes of the average Republican voter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do my best to talk with Republican supporters when I meet them and talk about why they like the GOP.   I seem to have a knack for doing so without it turning into a shouting match.  The common theme is a shocking belief in the most outlandish things as the foundation of their political loyalties.   It is markedly worse with those who specifically support Trump.   Often I find it hard to believe that grown adults are so disconnected from reality on matters of importance, and that there are enough of them that Trump is now President is something that concerns me greatly.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:08:09 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Eisenhower Was Right About Military-Industrial Complex</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/eisenhower-right-military-industrial-complex/#comment-3553835928</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Honestly were dealing with yet another false trope that has been pushed by conservatives for ages that for some reason, like so many others, seems to go unquestioned by the public, the media, and sadly, the Democratic Party.   We always need "more" military.   Every conservative I speak to feels that way but doesn't seem to know how much we really spend, and certainly not what other nations spend.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Up until very recently no nation spent more than $100 Billion on defense.   Many are surprised that Saudi Arabia in the last 10 years spend more on defense than Russia.   China in the last few years has dramatically stepped up their spending to over $200 Billion, for the first time since the fall of the Soviet Union providing some excuse for the mountain of resources we devote to Defense.  Prior to that though, there wasn't a single nation that came close to us in conventional firepower, movement, or transport capability.   There still isn't really.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another great trope used to justify defense spending is that the goal is to have our military ready to fight in 2 major theaters and a 3rd minor conflict at the same time.  When I was a lot younger and heard this it sorta made sense at the gut level, until I realized what they are describing are the conditions of WW2.    The idea that we must be on a permanent footing to wage a conflict on the scope of the biggest conflict ever is just absurd, even before the fall of the USSR.   Throughout human history nations have typically demobilized after a war's conclusion because militaries are ruinously expensive to maintain.   Fortunately we are absurdly wealthy and productive so were able to squeeze it in, but money spent on the military is better spent elsewhere.   We could still maintain the #1 fighting force in the entire world on less than half of what we spend now.   I'm all for maintaining the #1 position, but it can't just be a blank check at the expense of infrastructure, education, and all the other necessary costs of maintaining a modern industrialized nation, which it has.  There comes a point when putting more resources into Defense actually weakens a nation, the old "guns vs. butter" analogy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But good luck telling that to people that just think we need to spend more without knowing what we spend now or even what our "enemies" spend.   $200 Billions a year diverted from Defense into fusion, other clean energy, NASA, college education, secondary education, and transportation would be a much better way to spend our resources without ceding our spot at the top of the list militarily.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;P.S. - Great article btw, couldn't agree more with it.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2017 13:44:37 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Rick Dearborn &amp; Trump’s Obsession With Blocking Russia Scandal Investigations</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/rick-dearborn-trumps-obsession-blocking-russia-scandal-investigations/#comment-3525259723</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the kind words BG, don't have as much time as I used to for reading up on stuff but I try to make it by when I can.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As far as Tom Clancy goes, his novels are entertaining but fairly simple usually with some interesting twists.  There are some recurring good guys, Jack Ryan in the 80's and 90's, and some bad guys, usually Soviets and then mostly terrorists after the Soviets cashed out.   And also there are always some govt bureaucrats usually getting in the way and throwing up roadblocks for the hero, who bravely just cuts through all the red tape to get the job done for God, Country and Apple Pie.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;While it's usually about Spy vs. Spy, Special Forces operators tend to figure prominently, and I personally think that their popularity in fiction and video games in the last 20 years is largely due to Clancy's novels that highlight them.   I'd definitely start with his older stuff first, they were more fun back before American politics turned into a bare knuckle brawl that seemed to infect everything.   But maybe that's just me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;P.S. - Clancy also has some non fiction books covering just about everything military that I found very interesting, but I'm also a military history fan so your mileage may vary.   Either way, Clancy does know his stuff when it comes to military hardware and operational details.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:48:11 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Progressives should push proudly for Medicare for all</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/progressives-push-proudly-medicare/#comment-3525179161</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Moderate doesn't mean wishy washy, middle of the road, perfectly balanced between Right(tm) and Left(tm).   The ideas themselves may or may not be considered "Moderate", but they will be presented with facts and support, not screeched out and baseless opinion simply for the sake of hearing oneself talk.  That's the goal anyways.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Me, I'm for stuff that works and against stuff that doesn't work.   I don't really care what side of the fence it comes from, and if what you are saying works I don't care what letter is in front of your name when you are on CNN/FOX/MSNBC.  When taking a look at the data over the last oh, 80 years or so, it has become clear to me that liberal ideas have worked quite well, and conservative ones haven't.   Aside from Eisenhower making the highway system and Nixon signing the EPA into existence, I really can't think of a single one that's worked or had a positive impact.  I have also noticed that conservatives tend to push narratives that are blatantly false, like lowering taxes on the rich makes the economy do better, and raising them on the rich hurts the economy.   If I said something like that on Red State, I would be banned immediately as a crazy liberal, despite the fact there are mountains of evidence over the decades to support that what I say isn't just some made up garbage that makes me feel good, that it is in fact objective truth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As a result, conservatives tend to hear a lot of things the conflict with the things they take to be true and hold dear, and say that this site isn't "moderate".   But there are liberal equivalents that are also not tolerated here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So basically good ideas are welcome here.   Even bad ones as long as you try to make an actual case for them.  Whether it's progressive, liberal, conservative matters less, is in fact irrelevant as those names are often co-opted because they help to make the point when facts aren't enough.   State a case, back it up, avoid pointless name calling, and I imagine just about anyone is welcome here.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:59:29 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It Doesn’t Get Bigger Than Russian Cyber Warfare &amp; Trump’s Capitulation To Putin</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/doesnt-get-bigger-russian-cyber-warfare-trumps-capitulation-putin/#comment-3525129009</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Yea, Trump's love affair with Putin is quite shocking, but far more shocking to me is how the conservatives and particularly the GOP have embraced it.   I mean, despite my disdain for almost all Republican policy ideas at least the one thing I could count on was they were on the right page with regards to the communists.   Calling a Republican a commie pinko bastard was about as grave an insult as you could imagine, it was an insult they would hurl at other they didn't like, and yet here we are.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Putin was a Lt. Colonel in the KGB for crying out loud.   He wasn't just one of the Communist party's attack dogs, he was REALLY high up in the ranks of them.   He is the bad guy from just about every single 1980's Tom Clancy novel.   If Jack Ryan was being held in a Soviet Gulag with jumper cables hooked up to his junk, a guy just like Putin would be on the other end next to the car batteries cranking the dials.   But now apparently as long as you also have it in for Obama and Democrats you are welcomed with open arms by today's GOP, even if you were one of the worst of the card carrying Commie Pinko Bastards(tm).   Just astounding the depths to which today's GOP has sunk.   Without shame, and wrong on every single possible thing as far as I can tell.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:32:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Hillary and Co Should Chill</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/hillary-co-chill/#comment-3515752320</link><description>&lt;p&gt;While I'd have said it nicer, I basically agree.   The DNC and Clinton, and DWS and those like her, are so wildly out of touch with the voters that they lost to Trump.  The Democratic Party used to be for the people, that was their thing.   They used to be the ones that pushed for the really big stuff that made a difference, it's what made them popular for 40 years and more.  But these days they are spineless when it comes to putting up a fight and offering real change.  DWS took money from the payday loan industry for crying out loud, then tried to push legislation that curbed the CFPB's power to go after them.   And she was head of the DNC and Clinton's campaign co-chair in 2008, which means they are tight.   You can't be for the people and put someone like DWS in charge, and run candidates who are BFF's with such people and still expect to maintain your cred on this score.   The people who will vote for you otherwise will stay home, and they did.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To come out now finger pointing is just nuts.   I've heard everything, mostly blaming racism and sexism, even though we elected a black President twice and Clinton lost her own demographic in November, but apparently we went from "post racial America" to now all the voters are members of the KKK or something.  They simply don't pay attention.  2012 was a CLOSE race, even though Obama ran a flawless campaign and Romney couldn't seem to go 3 days without him or someone on his campaign putting their foot in their mouths, and yet the Democrats acted like 2012 was some slam dunk and they didn't need to practice before the big game.  They didn't get that it was the ultra competent and charismatic Obama that got them downticket votes, not their own craven spineless actions.   Even after the sickening losses in 2014 to the worst people the GOP could run, the DNC seemed to ignore the obvious that they were not reaching the people they needed to reach.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Clinton losing to Trump is like watching a pro NFL team lose to a community college intramural team, and the same goes to the rest of the Dems down the ballot.   The people want more Warrens, more Sanders, not more liberals who's primary skill set seems to be how much money they can raise from deep pocket donors, and yet that is almost entirely what Clinton was doing in August.   The Democratic party REALLY needs to take a hard look at themselves, admit what they are doing is turning off the voters they need and can actually get, and run out on a rail the likes of DWS and the rest of the fools running the DNC.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:08:41 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Rick Dearborn &amp; Trump’s Obsession With Blocking Russia Scandal Investigations</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/rick-dearborn-trumps-obsession-blocking-russia-scandal-investigations/#comment-3491801177</link><description>&lt;p&gt;The GOP itself not that long ago would have been spinning in its grave over the outrageous ties to Russia Trump has displayed.  We literally seem to have a President that is beholden to a Russian dictator who grew up in the old Soviet system and enforced their rule.  Tom Clancy could have modeled ever single bad guy from every novel he wrote in the 80's on Putin.  But he bagged on Obama, so that's all it took for today's GOP to be ok with him.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:35:25 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What makes one a hero?</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/makes-one-hero/#comment-3483031475</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I also, with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, call the Vietnam war a huge mistake, but I also realize back then the world was playing for stakes never before seen.   Global Nuclear war.   For the first time in human history we were actually playing with weapons that could wipe out the world as we know it.   Nobody had a playbook for that.   I'm frankly surprised we didn't all vanish in a nuclear firestorm during those years, especially in the 50's and 60's.   So while we did make some huge mistakes, and get a lot of people killed, I try to make allowances for what it was like for those at the time.   Learning on the job how to handle international nuclear diplomacy is one scary ass learning curve.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:30:27 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What makes one a hero?</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/makes-one-hero/#comment-3483023441</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I would broaden that definition a bit, although I largely agree.  I don't think you need to sacrifice life and limb to qualify, I think risking life and limb is enough.   There are plenty of people, and not just soldiers, who risked it all and came through unscathed through courage, skill, and often luck.  I also don't think just because someone did die or take a horrific injury that that makes them heroes either.   Having served in the military DdW, I'm sure you met plenty of people in the service who were terrible, incompetent people.  All professions have them no matter how many hurdles are placed before them to weed out those types.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, I've been in high pressure situations, where death is a possibility, and I also categorize people that can still function despite the fear, as heroes.    It's not really something you can know until someone gets in it, but the effects of adrenaline and the fight or flight response can vary wildly in people.   Some freeze up, some go all tunnel vision and charge recklessly, some tremble but can still shoot straight and think while the world seems to be ending around them.   With repeated exposure you can tame the response somewhat and control it, but not always.   Some people just lose their shit when things get crazy.   The ones that don't, those are heroes to me.   It is sorta like a super power.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:25:47 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Trump Is Only The Latest President To Guarantee American Failure In Afghanistan</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/trump-latest-president-guarantee-american-failure-afghanistan/#comment-3482984016</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Afghanistan, and Iraq for that matter, was never really up to us, and I couldn't agree more with the statement that there is nothing we could do different, not without committing WWII level atrocities.  The countries there are divided,  have little sense of national character over tribal or local concerns, and the vast majority of those in leadership positions are far, far more corrupt than even anything in this country.    We didn't help by putting corrupt jackals in power either.   The leadership under Karzai, and Maliki in Iraq, were both far more interested in graft, lining their pockets, and settling personal scores than they ever were in forging a nation or maintaining law and order that a nation needs to be successful.   They needed a George Washington, and we gave them Boss Tweeds in both cases.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;All we did since taking control of those countries is act as bodyguards for fundamentally corrupt leaders. Spending our soldiers blood and limbs and lives as well as staggering amounts of money and resources, to protect those corrupt bastards from the logical results of their own suicidal corruption and short sighted incompetence.   The rise of ISIS was a foregone conclusion, but a necessary step after we pulled out the majority of our forces from Iraq.   They had to stand on their own two feet, and it took the barbarians taking over vast swathes of Iraq, until they were practically knocking on the gates of Baghdad, to make the Iraqi govt realize that this is a serious business they are in.  But they got it together finally, once their back was to the wall.   That was the only way to make that happen.   If we stayed another 10 years, then ISIS or someone just like them would have appeared 10 years later, and been defeated 10 years later.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leaving and making them have to sink or swim on their own is the only thing we can do.   It will be bloody and horrible, but that is what happens in these situations, and pretending otherwise is just foolishness.   There is no other way to make selfish, corrupt fools actually lead properly than to let them see the headsman's axe being sharpened for them if they do otherwise.   And it has to be done by themselves without a foreign powers soldiers doing all the heavy lifting, or the resulting govt will simply be seen as a puppet and continue to face uprisings.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:02:34 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: ‘Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses…’</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/give-tired-poor-huddled-masses/#comment-3457924290</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Hey man.   I've just been super busy with work, and an unusual amount of friends/family with personal drama that I've been trying to help out with.  I'm still lurking, but glad to know someone missed me :)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2017 12:40:37 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: ‘Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses…’</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/give-tired-poor-huddled-masses/#comment-3452051477</link><description>&lt;p&gt;You think it was just a poem to raise money?  Ever consider why that particular poem?  They weren't selling cookies door to door for it.  And it was included in the base for the same reason people throughout history have made statues and monuments and put stirring words on them.   So that we don't forget the things we honor, the ideas we cherish and hope will make us greater than the sum of our parts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It would appear that immortalizing those noble sentiments of the poem on perhaps the most iconic of all American monuments is a wasted effort on some people like Mr. Miller, and yourself.   But yea, maybe you're right.  Maybe they were just short on cash and slapped up whatever the biggest donor wanted.   That sounds like the kind of thinking we've been seeing a lot.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2017 16:26:51 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Rudderless Democratic Party</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/rudderless-democratic-party/#comment-3436808590</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I pretty much agree with this one.   The Democratic leadership is just a slimy as before.  If it weren't for leaked emails DWS would still be calling the shots over there.   We all knew she was awful but no one wanted to believe the obvious.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And judging by their folks at the likes of DKos, the rank and file still think the plan is to focus only on their "core", double down on their losing strategies of the last 8 years.   Run from FDR type goals and agenda and keep it watered down, don't fight unless it's a gimme, that sort of thing.    So frustrating.   They still want to blame racism and sexism alone.   I can very much see the GOP somehow still managing to win despite being the biggest idiots I've ever heard of in American politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2017 13:34:59 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Left: Trump Boy Scout Speech Is Nazi Hitler Youth Rally</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/left-trump-boy-scout-speech-nazi-hitler-youth-rally/#comment-3436773902</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Wow.   Just goes to show that Trump is so absurd what used to be satirical metaphor isn't often enough to keep up.  If you think you've gone over the top, his reality will often as not prove you didn't even go far enough.   Crazy.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2017 13:16:14 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Left: Trump Boy Scout Speech Is Nazi Hitler Youth Rally</title><link>http://themoderatevoice.com/left-trump-boy-scout-speech-nazi-hitler-youth-rally/#comment-3435040187</link><description>&lt;p&gt;My reaction was the same, but I'm long since past being surprised at Donald Trump's ability to take any moment and strip it of all decency or respect and make it shamelessly about himself and whatever is bothering him at the moment.   The man stood in from of the CIA Memorial wall of stars and rambled incoherently about himself and lied blatantly about his inauguration crowed.   The man would probably turn his own mother's eulogy into a rant about himself and "Fake News" that keeps reporting all the stuff he's actually saying and doing.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slamfu</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:49:27 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>