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Re: J Street, a road too narrow

ShadowLP — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:21:24 -0000

Dear MXM,
An honest yes or no question for you:

Do you believe Jews would have a right to live in a Palestinian state? If that state were in the West Bank and Gaza, would the Palestinian Authority and Hamas allow Jews to live as a minority in those lands?

I think the answer to both those questions is the same. And I think it also attests to the morality and caliber of people you are attempting to defend.

PS. If you're going to attack an author, at least get his name right.

Re: Partner for Peace | Columbia Spectator

ShadowLP — Thu, 07 May 2009 00:43:06 -0000

No, you probably arn't an idiot considering you go to Columbia, but then again this university has made mistakes in the past. Either way, you sound much more like an ignorant, uninformed, and mindless drone who doesn't care enough to take the time to read the facts behind the conflict in order to form an educated opinion. I'm not even going to dignify responding to your rant beyond this, it just isn't worth mine or anyone elses time.

And on Elshami's last response, also not worth my time when the article of discussion is "Nakba" and not Likud, (of which I personally do not support). Of course you do end with an age old premise, always leading back to the root of your apparent grievances, "it's the United States' fault...America is evil". Don't like it here? Find a new country to live in. I hear France is welcoming antisemites and America-bashers these days. Perhaps you'd be better suited there.

Re: Partner for Peace | Columbia Spectator

ShadowLP — Mon, 04 May 2009 23:52:40 -0000

Perhaps I will show you the same respect you do to Eric in addressing you by your surname, Elshami.

"Nakba" indeed is a term that bemoans the establishment of Israel, for it is the commemoration of the creation of a Jewish State in a former British colony called Palestine. When you refer to "systematic expulsion" you should be careful in insinuating factual history in a non-factual manner. I will admit because I am not afraid of historical truths, that the nearly 800,000 Palestinians who left Israel during the War of Independence were forced to leave by both sides of the conflict. But do not dare invoke language of victimization and one-sidedness in responding to the so-called "refugee" problem. The current demographics of Israeli-Arabs, Palestinians who were not forcibly expelled by calls from other Arab countries in '48, or by the military movements of the Israeli army in defense of their new homeland, put them at 20% of Israel's current population. They enjoy rights no other Arab in the Middle East has, full enfranchisement, women and gay rights, a fair and equal job market, I can go on and on. Even when polled and asked, Israeli Arabs have overwhelmingly declared they would not leave Israel in favor of a Palestinian state. Want the numbers, here you go:

http://archive.constantcont...

Glaring historical errors? Get your facts straight before you step into the ring. You cite UN Resolution 181, and Israel's apparent failure to accept it, when the fact remains that even in her Declaration of Independence, the new Israeli state accepts Resolution 181.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Yet the UN called for partition, did the Palestinians or Arab states accept that? No, they threw five fully trained armies at the fledgling Jewish state in an effort to prevent the creation of Israel and kill as many Jews as possible. And only when they failed, and the Palestinian people they had commanded to leave temporarily were outside Israel's newly defined borders, did they create what is today termed "Nakba", or the catastrophe. The plight of the Palestinian people, and the perpetuation of their situation by the other Arab states as a mechanism for clinging to policies of hatred for Israel is the true catastrophe here Nancy. It was Nasser's aspirations for pan-Arabism and a United States of the Arab States that incited the Six Day War, Nancy. It was his systematic expulsion of UN Peacekeeeping forces in the Sinai, and the naval blockading of the Red Sea that gave Israel the internationally legal causus belli to pre-empt against an ensuing Arab assault. Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria all wanted round 2, and once again they failed. Afterward, the Arab League declared the three "Nos" in the Khartoum Resolution, 1) No Peace with Israel 2) No Recognition of Israel, and 3) No Negotiations with Israel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
You want to discuss which side was willing to make peace and which wasn't? What did the Palestinians get in return for the failed policies of its Arab state arbiters? Resolution 242, which Israel was willing to abide by but all other states, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon all refused to accept.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Nancy, Israel does not revel in its victimhood, the Palestinian people do. Israel has defended itself time and again against the unjustified aggressions of its neighbors, from 1948 to 1956 to 1967 to 1973 to 1982 to 1995 to 2000 to 2005 to May 4th, 2009 and every single day in between. What makes Israel capable of standing up, defending the rights and freedoms of its people, Jewish, Muslim, and Christian, European and Arab and American and Asian, Black and White, Gay and Straight, Young and Old is the ideal that Israel is not the victim, and that Israel will defend itself and every one of its citizens' right to exist in a peaceful just society, until its last dying breath. That is one status quo that will never change.

Re: Anger at the Nakba protest | Columbia Spectator

ShadowLP — Fri, 01 May 2009 15:20:02 -0000

I'm fascinated by the direction you've chosen to take in attacking this article. You clearly think the piece is some perfected manifestation of what the disgraced scholars Mearsheimer and Walt call "The Israel Lobby".

I respect your work in Lebanon, but don't go crying about IDF actions in a region under the violent control of Hizbullah, whose leader has openly called for the welcomed congregation of all Jews in the world into Israel so it will be easier to kill them all. That, my dear friend, IS genocidal. The operations, and yes I will keep calling them operations until the term war can be properly applied, in both south Lebanon and Gaza were efforts to curb the unjustified rocket and mortor attacks on innocent Israeli Jews and Arabs. I have read the history books, I have witnessed the slaughter of Palestinians by Hamas, and I have spent considerable time in both Gaza and the West Bank. My conclusions remain the same about who is fighting for their survival, and who is fighting to indiscriminately murder.

Here is some evidence you might appreciate:

http://www.israelpolitik.or...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/w...

The author of the article was absolutely right in citing Sadat and Hussein, individuals who at great risk to their own lives (Sadat was assassinated by the organization that founded Hamas) took it upon themselves to make peace with Israel. That is the point of this entire article, to try and find a willing partner in the process for peace. Thusfar, in terms of this issue here on campus, no group who pro-actively supports Palestinians has yet made any attempt to dialogue or sit down and discuss the issues with the other side. Before you level accusations of ignorance I'd suggest you first look in the mirror.

Re: Anger at the Nakba protest | Columbia Spectator

ShadowLP — Fri, 01 May 2009 12:18:59 -0000

Who are you to weigh who does and does not "pay the price" for the actions of either side of the conflict? Have you lost friends er even family to the genocidal actions of Hamas or Hizbullah? The author's so called "jingoist inaccuracies" seem to be a pure attempt at changing the true direction of the conversation. When discussion boils down to individuals such as yourself, just as much a "privileged Ivy Leaguer" as the person you attack, making extreme remarks simply in opposition to a situation you won't even attempt to understand, you delegitimize any argument you could make.

The *operation* in Gaza that sparked this campus wide debate was an effort by the Israeli government to put an end to indiscriminate attacks on its innocent civilians. It is unfortunate that people like yourself cannot see that the Palestinians who lost their lives in Gaza have only Hamas to thank.