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Re: Supporter of Kira?

S_Shook — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:34:27 -0000

Yes, the legal system does have something to do with the government, but your missing the point. What I'm saying is ANYONE can be the executioner. They don't have to be with the legal system or the government AT ALL, they can be a gift shop cleck for Bush Gardens, Virginia. It doens't matter. All I said was that if someone wanted to be an executioner they could. And then you brought up the suggestion of a test that could be applied to test if that person was....good enough to use the death note. So that they don't go on a crazy killing spree, and I agreed that if a test like that could be applied then to do it. I did not once say that the government has the right to use the death note to kill people and that's the point you keep trying to bring up. But I didn't say that. I said if a person was sentenced to death under a court of law, meaning a jury of his or her peers (like the gift shop clerk) found him/her guilty of a crime that deserved death as a result, then the death note could be used to kill that person. And whoever were to use that death note (remember, like I said it could be ANYONE), could be tested to see if they would use the death note righteously (based on your suggestion if such a test were to exist). I said nothing pertaining to the government, and only the government, being allowed to kill people with the death note.

And I already answered the second half of your question but I'll expand what I said before. I said that "no matter what that person has done they're alive for a reason and no matter how much we may want them dead, we don;t have the right to decide if they should be unless were on jury duty and putting that person through trial legally". What that meant was I believe that if a person has committed a horrible and unforgivable crime and is running free, but they have not been put on trial legally and a jury has not voted on the death penalty, then I don't think using the death note on that person is okay. Put it like this, let's say some guy rapes a little girl (the usual penalty for which is not death). Do you think that everyone in the girls family would want him alive? No, of course they would want him dead. But the penalty for rape is (usually) just prison time. So if this man is running the around free and someone were to use the death note on him because of what he's done, then it isn't right because there's a chance that, had he been caught and convicted, he would NOT have been sentenced to death and then you would have killed, not and innocent man, but a man who still had the right to life (maybe not to freedom) but to life.

Re: Supporter of Kira?

S_Shook — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:49:55 -0000

Yes, I do believe that, because no matter what that person has done they're alive for a reason and no matter how much we may want them dead, we don;t have the right to decide if they should be unless were on jury duty and putting that person through trial legally. And it doesn't have so much to do with the government as it does the legal system. If their rights to life have been LEGALLY ended, then I don't object to using the death note as an alterior way to apply the death penalty.

And no. It's not for certain that everyone would freak out wondering if they killed the person or not. And on a side note, it is also wrong to say that everyone will remain calm. It all depends on the individuals reaction. That being said, those who don't want to do it, don't have to.

And yes, if there were a way to test someone accurately, then by all means let that test be applied. But, because we don't have that technology (and since lie detectors are inadmissable in court), I was merely suggesting an alternative that could be used if a death note was put to use in current times.

Re: Supporter of Kira?

S_Shook — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:40:14 -0000

"So like I said, someone who is with the government can kill but someone who is not can not…"

ANYONE can be the executioner. You don't have to be with the government to do you it. When Sadam Hussein was caught many, MANY people signed up to be the executioner. Many people from his country; middle class, average, non-governmental people, signed up to pull the lever when he was to be hung. What I'm saying is kind of like that. Anyone can do it, you don't have to be in the government, or the military, or any specific group to do it. Now, how people would be chosen to do something like that, I still don't know. Maybe it could work like jury duty. Maybe people could sign up for it. Whatever works best.

And yes, when I heard about how they do the death penalty, I thought it was pretty interesting myself.

Well the question didn't really classify if we were talking about inmates or "free" crimials. The question was asked if it was so bad to do things the Kira way and I said I wouldn't do it his way, but I suggested an alternative. And the reason I would ONLY use it on inmates who are on death row, is because they have already been sentanced by a court of law, to death. If a criminal has raped and beaten and murdered and done all of these unthinkable crimes but is still running from the law but has NOT been sentenced BY A COURT OF LAW to death, then killing then with the death note isn't right.

And I never said to give a death note to inmates. What I said was we could have a system where those selected people (whoever they are; governmental or not) look at an inmate on death row (be it a picture or the real thing) and then write his or her name down in identical looking notebooks( so no one knows which one is real),one of which would be the death note. And then the inmate will die, no one will know who killed him/her and everyone has a clean concience.

Re: L vs Light

S_Shook — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:36:15 -0000

Point taken, but if L had outsmarted Light, he wouldn't be dead. He would have figured it out before he was going to be killed. Light made sure he stayed one step ahead. That's why I say he outsmarted him. But yes, I see your point, Near was only able to defeat Light with the help of Mello and L but, regardless, he defeated him so I still think Near pwnes.

Re: Supporter of Kira?

S_Shook — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:40:58 -0000

No, I didn't say a police man has that right. Okay you know how when some one is to be executed, there always has to be an executioner? Well if someone is one death row, and they have been sentenced to death by law, then i think it would be okay if a selected executioner were to use the death note to kill that person. Now a days when people are sentenced to death, it's usually by lethal injection. The governmental scientists make a deadly liquid poison and then about 6 different IV's are hooked up to the inmate. And attached to those IV's are 6 pouches. Each of them contains a liquid, but only one of them contains the poison. And 6 different doctors (aka executioners) come in to the room and they each hook up an IV to a pouch and run the liquid through to the inmate. None of them knows which pouch has the poison so none of them know who is really killing the inmate and the inmate doesnt know either. And that's how it works. What I'm saying is that, that might be a way to put the death note to good use. Let's say an inamte is on death row, and they're next in line to die. What they could do is put the inmate in a room and then have about 6 people come in to the room (knowing the inmates name), each of them carrying a notebook that looks exactly alike. Only one of those note books will be the REAL death note. Then, a signal will be given and they could all write the name of that person down in their notebooks at the same time and within 40 seconds, that peson will die. Nobody knows who has the real death note, and you can get through a lot more convicted inmates that are on death row that way. Did that clarify things for you?

Re: the death note

S_Shook — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:51:45 -0000

honestly, my death note is my school notebook. my name is written in there like 500 times. my friends and i joke around with each other and write names of anime characters in there and sometimes we draw (once i think i wrote my ex's name) but i obviosly never worked since im still here. simple as that.

Re: L vs Light

S_Shook — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:48:42 -0000

I honestly think that Light is smarter, just because he outsmarted L. Granted, L was on Light's trail the whole way, but he was always one step behind. The one who outsmarted Light was Near. So I think he pwns them both. : )

Re: Supporter of Kira?

S_Shook — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:45:43 -0000

Kira being hot has nothing to do with it. The question is, if you had the chance and a REAL death note actually DID work and was handed to you, would you be willing to do things the "Kira" way? No matter if the person is a rapist, muderer, teacher, little child, or a drug-dealing teenager, it's still TAKING A LIFE THAT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TAKE. Granted, I would love to see to it that every rapist, and murderer die a horrible painful death, but deciding weather they live or die ISN'T up to me or you. And, for that matter, neither is how they die. I've thought about this for a while, since I first read the series. And I always wondered "What would I do?" and honestly, I would probably burn the damn thing. No notebook should be able to decide the fate of a human life. The human decides that fate by their actions. And all humans have the right to live. The only way the right to live can be taken away from someone is when they have done something absolutely UNFORGIVABLE and a court of law decides on the death penalty as punishment. A jury, and a court. Not. A. Teenager. Now if using the death note was a way of applying the death penalty LEAGALY to someone who was on DEATH ROW then I might consider that as an option to avoid having to make such toxins as stuff for a lethal injection or putting someone through the chair. That way, inmates on death row don't get to LIVE in prison where they can just pass away while waiting to be put to death. Using a death note legally would make things in the prison system a lot more efficiant. But other then that, there's no way I would EVER use a death note.