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Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:39:07 -0000

Been trying to figure out how to work this thing.....

Obama to expand Bush's faith based programs

This wouldn't happen to be one of those Bush/McCain policies that Obama loves to tout as "failed," would it?

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:43:34 -0000

Here's the thing, though: Obama jumps up and down on "Bush/McCain" this and "failed Bush policies" that.

Well, obviously something worked....so much so that not only does Obama want to keep it around, he wants to expand it.

Either all the policies have failed-as Obama has indirectly suggested-or some of them have worked. If you're gonna run against Bush, then run against him....and don't embrace what's politically expedient.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:04:57 -0000

Then he's pandering.

It's to be expected, but let's call it what it is: he's making a move to appeal to a certain interest.

Which then leads to the question: what else has worked during the Bush Administration? Surely for all its faults, it wasn't all bad, else he wouldn't be embracing it.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:13:19 -0000

Obama: Equal Pay for Women... Just Not on My Dime

As reported by CNSNews.com, "While Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has vowed to make pay equity for women a top priority if elected president, an analysis of his Senate staff shows that women are outnumbered and out-paid by men. That is in contrast to Republican presidential candidate John McCain's Senate office, where women, for the most part, out-rank and are paid more than men."

In his speech, Obama spoke about how his single mom worked to raise her family. He spoke of hardships of his grandmother, and also his wife. He set the stage beautifully by noting the successes of these women... then what did he do? He blasted Sen. John McCain, saying, "But when you look at our records and our plans on issues that matter to working women, the choice could not be clearer. ... It starts with equal pay."

It starts with equal pay? Did he seriously say that with a straight face? As CNSNews.com notes in their analysis, "On average, women working in Obama's Senate office were paid at least $6,000 below the average man working for the Illinois senator." CNSNews.com also points out that "of the five people in Obama's Senate office who were paid $100,000 or more on an annual basis, only one -- Obama's administrative manager -- was a woman."

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:29:29 -0000

Don't get me wrong; I actually have no problem with this at all. Well.....except the hiring/firing based on faith part. That's kinda a little too Alberto Gonzales-ish for me.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:37:59 -0000

Yes, when deserved. I was not a fan of the gas tax holiday....still aren't. And I was completely displeased (to the point of calling a campaign office) when he gave that terrible speech to "officially" kick off the general election.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:42:21 -0000

Those are two major things....I'm not gonna sit here and say that's it (for example, I was upset with the "just got done beating my wife" comment, when a lot of people here "explained"), but that's what came to mind at first thought.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:59:59 -0000

Of course he has, and of course it's not.

Trust, when he does, it's more than pointed out here.

Re: Production Values (UPDATED)

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:11:35 -0000

The production does detract from the message.

Re: Production Values (UPDATED)

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:12:18 -0000

Why is that?

Re: Production Values (UPDATED)

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:30:37 -0000

Well, dna, you know just as well as I do that details like that aren't reported. It's played as he voted against the whole bill, rather than his opposition to a specific section.

McCain's done the same thing at times, and it's presented as, say, him being against money for rebuilding after Katrina.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:40:07 -0000

So....if Sens. Lieberman and Graham had to leave honorary positions with Vets for Freedom, should Wesley Clark leave his with VoteVets?

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:15:44 -0000

Well, if Obama's flip-flopped, backtracked, and started moving towards the center, what does that make him?

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:29:17 -0000

It does give you an advantage; a certain knowledge that you can leverage against someone who's never served.

And as a vet, you should feel equally disparaged by someone disrspecting a former POW, even if you don't agree with the POW politically or the person doing the disrespecting wore the same uniform.

Wes Clark needs to shut the hell up and go back to the Clinton camp.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:28:27 -0000

...and another reflection on Wes, from a friend of mine:

The Saddest Thing About Barack Obama's Available Military Expertise...
...is that though he has Wes Clark in his corner, the only person he knows with the experience of getting a bomb on target is Bill Ayers.

Considering the

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:28:06 -0000

Webb,
First off, the release of POWs during Vietnam was by seniority or your measure of cooperation. Though McCain did initially cooperate, he ultimately decided not to benefit from that cooperation.

I would challenge you to read the military's Code of Conduct, which governs conduct for POWs, before you suggest that McCain cared neither for country or family. Contrary to liberal belief, there is no honor in tucking tail and running.

As for qualifications, being a POW is not a prerequsite to the presidency. But let's compare the two: you have a man who paid just short of the ultimate sacrifice for his country, compared to a man who has done....what?...for his.

As a vet, that's hard to overlook.

McCain has repeatedly said that he is only running because he looks to give back to a country that gave its all for him.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:38:06 -0000

Not so.

Like I said, when the criticism is deserved, I offer it.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:42:09 -0000

Of course you'd think that.

If you and I were running for...sherrif, and I had 10 years of law enforcement experience while you had just gotten a degree in criminal justice a few months before the election, you don't think that would have some bearing?

I bet if McCain wasn't a candidate or a senator, and was just some guy fighting the VA to get his disability, liberals would hold him up as a hero.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:40:06 -0000

Webb.

Nah, that's from one of his post-primary victory speeches.

And if you are what I posted above in the thread, it seems like Obama is going to follow-and expand on-some of those same policies.

Guess those policies that you're so adamantly against aren't all bad, huh?

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:44:07 -0000

Truth,
...and the American people will/should do the same.

The experience-whether viewed as a positive or negative-is still relevant to the discussion.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:55:06 -0000

But I didn't say hiring, did I? My sherrif is elected, hence the comparison.

Re: Production Values (UPDATED)

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:06:04 -0000

Belle,
I acknowledge the somewhat questionable racial history of the GOP, just like I acknowledge the somewhat questionable racial history of the dhimmicrats.

There's wrong on both sides.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:32:05 -0000

Maybe it'd be easier for you if you took the positions out of it.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:34:08 -0000

Well, since we want to dig deeper into backgrounds and all....

Re: Tuesday Open Thread

Coby W. Dillard — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:00:19 -0000

Am I still sleepy, or should this be Wednesday's thread?