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Re: Would Larry David Urinate on the Koran? – by Jamie Glazov

AlFranken1 — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:45:13 -0000

I went to your link and found no citation for these Jihad attacks.

How do you suppose they get these statistics so readily available.

I would be surprised to see that the State Department/CIA would have this information so readily available even after 9/11

I would think you would have to be pretty naive to accept this list without a source.

I wouldn't doubt that there is some truth to that but we still and under that assumption we still haven't addressed why they are declaring a Jihad.

Something tells me that all you know is that they want to destroy the Western world and Israel and nothing else matters.

You really don't know do you. You think all that energy really goes to hatred with no substance?

Re: The Totalitarians Among Us – by David Horowitz

AlFranken1 — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:13:27 -0000

Sounds like David Horowitz - must really be him.

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal by military parents.

We should amend the constitution to allow any American, regardless of where they were born, to be President.

We are an international conglomerate these days.

Re: Would Larry David Urinate on the Koran? – by Jamie Glazov

AlFranken1 — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:05:28 -0000

Majority of Muslims and Christians are too busy taking care of their families and earning a living --- that's on the mind of most not what this idiot pisses on. The fanatics are going to react to anything and everything regardless what he does.

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:59:28 -0000

I found it interesting to see how they do it in countries in which the economic environment of AG doesn't require advance technology to compete:

For example, fruit and/or nut trees are spread out in rows much wider than ours --- maybe at least 20-30 feet apart.

In between these trees, they grow wheat with an occasional small vegetable plots with mixed vegetables.

What this does is provide an environment in which species can survive while naturally killing insects and disease.

When you go to a local village, you buy noodles and vegetables grown locally --- you can taste the difference.

We obviously can't do that and our system is better suited for our way of life and community structure.

What I'm suggesting is that we combine other means as described with advance growing techniques to develop a much better product that would be much healthier.

The left verses right politics combined with our economic constraints would make this too difficult.

Re: Would Larry David Urinate on the Koran? – by Jamie Glazov

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:38:20 -0000

I've heard your claims over and over by others that share your viewpoint and not once have I seen real substance to these claims.

What I do see is a lot of rhetoric

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:20:53 -0000

What are you talking about?

I said the upper middle class pays more!

I live in an upper class neighborhood and have kept my boat in the Port of L.A. which has some of the poorest communities.

I go to (I forgot what is called) on Anahiem blvd and pay half as much for vegetables as I do at home.

Maybe you missed my point. I was explaining how competitive the ag business is and how small independent communities can't make it on bartering their crops --- they can't compete.

We do that now with not much success as I was explaining to Linda.

Regarding who I want to help --- I don't determine the market of charity and I didn't consider your personal priorities.

how many companies do your know that give to a charity for the heck of it or "gee-- maybe we should give to pink rabbits cause there so cute"

I remember somebody gave you the nickname Lucy clueless -- now I know why

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:08:33 -0000

I have been traveling for years and I see my family every few months.

The men and women that serve our country have similar schedules.

again you are making assumptions about my target market.

Maybe your circle of influence are soccer moms and maybe that is the bubble you live in --- I don't and I'm not trying to be too sarcastic.

I have successfully plan these missions before so I know what I'm doing.

I'll give you a few tips:

Don't bring construction materials or food and clothing across the border --- the Mexican immigration don't feel the love when you don't buy that stuff at their building supply yard and Costco.

For now on bring your passport

They are not familiar with our framing techniques in Southern California -- they build their residences out of stone, concrete, and block for the most part. Have the locals do the masonry and will frame the roof and build out the rest.

Your sponsor needs to be charity such as a church that is well connected to the local government. --- things go a lot smoother.

Anything else you would like to know just ask

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:58:43 -0000

Nobody here is denying that Hamas hates Jews and would prefer to take the land of Israel by means of killing Jews --- many of them seem to hate that much.

What I choose to address is why. their version

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:06:30 -0000

I've never been on one that pays. I know real missionaries make very little so what would be the point? --- it's not like we are trying to make money on the charity end of a good marketing plan.

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:50:04 -0000

It is all in in marketing plan Linda ---

You don't go to church's for employment --- you facilitate charity as a PR plan in your marketing plan.

Maybe you can give me some more of your suggestions tomorrow morning because tomorrow I have to catch a plane to China and my screen name will change after that.

sense you are currently protesting my evil twin's existence, we will have to continue this fruitful dialog next month

have a nice month

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:30:41 -0000

I forgot to mention about your narrow focus on my target market --- there at least as many tradesmen that have had to lower their standard of living through mediocre part time work in their profession. So short term trips would be therapeutic to their condition--- as described, they would start off short term missions south of the border.
How about the ones that already lost their house, maybe their marriage, you would deny them this restoration of their soul?

Re: Would Larry David Urinate on the Koran? – by Jamie Glazov

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:22:08 -0000

Okay Timmy,

Thank you for that textual documentary and timeline of Muslim/Christian rifts past and present.

you are the winner

Let me know when you put it all together --- hopefully soon.

Re: The Conservative Revival – by Jacob Laksin

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:37:57 -0000

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What a f*cking crack up

I clicked on the "Gallup Poll" link in the first paragraph of Lame-skin's article and found it to be from the Christian Science Monitor ( FReak show!!)

in their heading they state that conservatives out number liberals 2-1

First of all --- the word Gallup poll is being hijacked. The Gallup poll is a legitimate and non-bias group that has nothing to do with the Christian Science Monitor see --- http://www.gallup.com/home....

Second of all, the Christian Monitor doesn't do poll samples on a national level --- they are completely incapable --- even if the did, they are so low on the list of legitimate surveyors that it would be too much of a crack up to mention

So when you guys don't like what the polling samples show you make your own up

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Re: Would Larry David Urinate on the Koran? – by Jamie Glazov

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:19:09 -0000

It goes like this Timmy --- if you want to piss on your own dog then go for it but if you hop over my fence and piss on my dog, I will train him to bit your little wiener off.

clark81's point is --- it is our action against religions that is offensive in this story not theirs.

It is called being accountable.

Re: Would Larry David Urinate on the Koran? – by Jamie Glazov

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:05:55 -0000

Just as you are indulging into the past so am I. Let us not forget the Crusades in which Christians cannibalized Muslims.

Of course Jews participated in killing Christians just as the Bible describes Saul ( later Paul) as going from one tribe to the next taking enjoyment in torturing and killing as many Christians as he could get his hands on. Let us not forget the Romans as well

Let us also not forget the Manifest Destiny in which millions of natives lost their lives to us due to the belief that God gave us this right.

Also, let us not forget the Manifesto in which the Spaniards subjugated all Carri bean and and central Americans --- they either accepted Christianity or they were slaughtered --- sound familiar?

I'm not going into slavery sense you brought it up already but we did just busted a blueberry company in the U.S. for using child labor --- that is just one example of many.

There is a small percentage of fanatical Muslims that have grown into a significant size during the development of the British Mandate and have grown ever sense as we have been bartering their resources. None of the populace have gained but rather a few and the poorest of the poorest are raising their arms against us and Israel for expelling them.

After us and Europe have given trillions upon trillions of dollars to the Saudi's and other M.E. developing countries for their foreign oil, how much of that has gone to the average Muslim?

How about about 98% has gone to the upper 3%? Does that sound right?

Of course much of our gas dollars goes to our highways and bridges through taxes at the protest of big oil but that is life in the U.S.A -- darn it! we tax and spend on our average American so that our children don't crash our donkeys into each other on rocky and muddy roads on the way to the village to sell shit instead of going to school -- Dang!

On the other hand, they are not invading our land with their armies. I'm sure they would if they could and 9/11 was their valiant effort in their process of protest. ( well at least it was a deranged spoiled man from a rich oil monger in Saudi Arabia in which George W. like to hold hands with -- that's right Bin Laden) well shit -- so much for the average Muslim planning that one.

I'm not sure what you are so upset about Europe for -- Europe is much more accessible to terrorists and therefore more vulnerable. Maybe they are still pissed off at England for their creation of Israel through the British Mandate and for standing behind us through and through.

If you took the sum of all Muslims and put a ratio on the ones participating in terrorists plots and then compare that to all the skin heads, Timothy McVieghs,
Ruby Ridge, Waco, Jim Jones, and all the other religious freaks while taking into consideration that our FBI pretty much has them under control --- is there that much difference between Muslims and Jews/Christians?

Oh let us not forget the Nazi's in our country as well the sum of gangs.

American Muslims are starting to look like sweethearts now!

I would think that if we had the level of security that Afghanistan has we would be seeing abortion clinics being bombed on a weekly average. We would see Mormon's raping 12 years olds on a regular basis, preachers would be molesting little boys ten times as much as our recent Catholic epidemic as we see in the Middle East, and of course, if the conservatives didn't have the socialists as watchdogs, we would all be slaves to the corporate world.

So your infidel language doesn't concern me.

I would agree that much of the Muslim population is primitive and barbaric.

But just as I described, we too had a history of barbaric behavior.

The difference between then and now is that we have the capability to elevate Muslims to our level and therefore reduce their barbaric behavior to a small minority of criminals such as we have done.

But here is the real problem discussing this with you. I suspect you will never be objective to anything I say because you may be a racist

( Oh yea, they are not race according to many of you--- they don't have or deserve any sort of identity as a class like Jews of course who have painstakingly kept track of their lineage )

They don't deserve to be recognized as humans right?

Pretty hypocritical for a website with members that constantly reminds me of the Holocaust and would not dare let me forget how Hitler did the same as many of you are doing to the Muslims--- If I was Muslim, I think I would feel the same as they do.

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:19:12 -0000

P.S.

Try responding to my comment directly -- it gives you more credibility.

Besides, my e-mail isn't linked to FPM anyhow so relax.

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:17:48 -0000

You should go back and read the part where I stated "local"

If mega church's want to give me money for local projects only then so be it. The problem is our advance agriculture system and land use doesn't really work with my plan.

Also, 3rd world countries such as China are still using human labor which accommodates such a plan

Also, if you read the part where I stated " help those to help themselves" then I'm fixing what you are complaining about. If I'm teaching them to help themselves then they don't need to depend on you and therefore charities can focus on your priorities.

Regarding your idea of giving land to homeless Americans. First of all, that is already in action and it isn't working very well. There are garden plots in major cities all over and they have turned into hobbies rather than dependent on food.

Most affordable small plots are in the Bible belt and they don't seem to want to give them up. Many small plots are used to preserve wild life in which the NRA sponsors for their sport ( I'm a member of the NRA and I support that)

People can not grow food and reasonably compete with big Ag.

If you go to the poorest parts of L.A. and compare the cost of fresh vegetables to the
upper middle class, you will see, in some cases, a 100% mark-up.

Also, let us not forget the subsidies that large Ag get from the Federal Govt.
That offsets cheap produce from competing countries and self growers.

Farmers of small plots depend on bartering and the variables go against that.

Another thing --- I'm a building contractor with over 25 years in my field.
I know the situation with my industry being one of the top three industries hit by this recession ( manufacturing and banking/real estate being the others). On top of it, I live in one of the worse hit states of the union-- California

So you want you preach to me about these guys when I'm one of them?

I have two small children and a wife that can't work and all my friends are suffering.

All we have is each other. We know much better than you what we need and many agree with me.

Regarding charity to Hamas, I would be likely to give them this education and technology if they needed it.

If they could properly feed their children and have access to clean water, then they would less likely be subjugated to strap bombs to their children ( which hasn't happened in quite a while now). -- Just a few propelled rockets here and there that's all.

I'm on the conservatives side on many issues but as you can see, not all.

Re: Would Larry David Urinate on the Koran? – by Jamie Glazov

AlFranken1 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:27:06 -0000

I find it ironic that a website such as FPM that is sponsored primarily by conservative Jews would publish an article about the extremities of Islam verses Christianity when you take into context of the persecution of Christ.

After all, heresy was the excuse for the brutal torture and murder of an innocent man. It was the persistent demands of the Jewish Pharisees in the Synagogues that forced Pontius Pilate to condemn Jesus to the cross.

I guess the excuse that Jews would give me today is that many people were persecuted in that manner for various reasons.

My answer to that is " well of course, that was primitive and barbaric"

So, how primitive and barbaric are these Muslims that are so offended by the desecration of Koran?

In their culture, is the right of speech or expression a priority?

What about our own roots? How about the purist of our history? Just having a seizure could condemn you to the burning at the stake!

Or how about being caught dancing? Hang it up -- your life is over.

I can give you examples of Christian neighborhoods today in small midwest towns that would act in similar ways to how most Muslims would react to such disrespect.

Our culture is overreaching into Muslim life. Our country is designed to tolerate religious freedom and we should open up ourselves for Muslims to express that anger towards this disrespect. We express outrage of disrespect towards Christianity all the time.

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:36:38 -0000

Keyword -- large church's

If these guys are sitting home collecting unemployment insurance with no jobs predicted in the near future, they would do what they need to do to keep their sanity. Combined missionary funds would easily pay for these plans. Church's in states bordering Mexico would be the first solicited.

Re: Bill Gates vs. the Famine Lobby – Ben Johnson

AlFranken1 — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:23:15 -0000

There is a Bible verse in Ephesians that states that God's plan is for us to help others.

I'll take that a little farther by taking Christ into full context by saying "we should help others help themselves"

The answer to solving hunger and fighting disease is education and the technology that comes with it and that is why I have proposed the following plan:

Solicit large church's to develop support groups for out-of-work construction professionals who are suffering depression, anxiety, and other symptoms from the worse recession sense the Great Depression.

This support group will meet once a week for breakfast and develop charity missions from building and maintenance for local areas to short missionary trips to Mexico to start with.

The projects will consist of advance technology plans such as raising tomatoes in hotboxes using hydroponics and solar PV panels to run electricity to the pumps and possible grow lamps and so forth.

The solar pv panels would be the most important part of solving starvation --

Energy will grow anything.

Plumbers, electricians, carpenters and others will regain their sense of dignity and heal while becoming productive in new technology while people in other countries will learn their skill and our technology by learning to help themselves feed their families and thus become less dependent on charity.

Political rhetoric is the poison to such a plan

Re: Home Ownership and Unemployment – by Thomas Sowell

AlFranken1 — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:22:27 -0000

re:
"Mortgage lending standards were lowered, in order to raise the magic number of home ownership. But, with lower lending standards, there were— surprise!— more mortgage payment delinquencies, defaults and foreclosures."

If you just put the scope of Freddie Mac into perspective then that might be true but it wasn't Fanny May and Freddie Mac that burst the housing bubble but rather the escalation of housing prices due to derivatives being sold on the international market--

that isn't about increasing ownership as much as making a profit off of bad loans.

The rhetorical question here is how much of the original $700 billion dollar bailout signed by Bush went to the private sector?

Re: Why President Obama Was Awarded the Nobel Prize – by Dennis Prager

AlFranken1 — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:30:16 -0000

Maybe someone will let Dennis Prager and Rush limbaugh coach a pop warner football team ------- naaa

Re: Why President Obama Was Awarded the Nobel Prize – by Dennis Prager

AlFranken1 — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:28:28 -0000

1. “The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.”
Meaning: No more Lone Ranger America.
Progressive Presidents have been more successful at winning wars in modern American history: meaning, we win wars in which we build an alliance. Bush failed miserably in his alliance to go to war against Saddam, The best Bush Sr. could do was develop a no fly zone,
The best Nixon could do was bomb the shit out of Cambodia ( of course that war was a failure more on Johnson’s part in which find it ironic that the people hired a Republican to end that war). Eisenhower didn’t do much but Truman was decisive in both Korea and WWll but it was Roosevelt’s diplomacy of building an alliance ( even with Stalin) to defeat the Germans and ultimately setting the table for Truman to defeat Japan. .

So Lone Ranger? Exactly when did we get it right as the Lone Ranger Dennis?

2. “The Committee has attached special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.”
Meaning: The Nobel Committee wants no country to possess nuclear weapons. That an American president shares this dream and is working to achieve it excites the Nobel Committee — and the world’s left generally — beyond words.
Many people around the world — not just Americans — would characterize a world in which America and all other decent countries had no nuclear weapons not as a dream, but as a nightmare. But for the naive left-wing (a redundant phrase: If one is not naive about evil, one is not on the left) members of the Nobel Committee, the prospect of encouraging an American president to dismantle his country’s nuclear arsenal was too tempting to allow to pass — even at the price of appearing foolish.

Prager doesn’t understand our history of diplomacy how can we expect him to understand the strategy of reducing nuclear weapons?

We have been talking about eliminating nuclear weapons way back before the Salt ll Talks!
Now prager has a problem with it when a Democrat addresses but gee whiz let’s not get in Nixon’s way or even Reagan’s for that matter.

It was Reagan that proposed selling nuclear technology to the Chinese for peaceful purposes in exchange nuclear arms diplomacy.

Obama is weak and appeasing for that? This has been an issue for a very long time.

3. “Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play.”
Meaning: To the international left, as embodied by the five members of the Nobel Prize Committee, the United Nations is the beacon of hope for mankind.
To many Americans and others, however, the United Nations is regarded as a moral wasteland that rewards some of world’s cruelest regimes with seats on its Human Rights Committee, does nothing to prevent genocides (some would way say the U.N. actually abets them), honoring tyrants, and mired in corruption.

Oh when Eisenhower did it he wasn’t’? hypocrite!

4. “Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts.”
Meaning: As the pacifist bumper sticker puts it: “War is not the answer.”
Oslo’s approach echoes what the British government under Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain believed vis a vis Adolf Hitler.

But had Hitler been confronted instead of “dialogued” with, perhaps tens of millions of innocent men and women’s lives would have been spared and the Holocaust averted. Europeans tend to believe that evil regimes will act responsibly because of dialogue, not threats of force.

Sun Tsu would consider Dennis a fool. As a last resort, you want to attack their fortified cities – very last thing you want to do.

The very best thing you can do is to win without going to war – without attacking them. To win them over.

The second best thing you can do is attack the enemy’s alliance --- what do you suppose Roosevelt did? What do you suppose Bush did with his banner the day after Bagdad fell?

Dennis is almost as stupid as Bush!

Dennis knows absolutely nothing about tactical strategy

5. “The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations.”
Meaning: We believe that a world in which no country possesses nuclear weapons will be a safer world. We believe that even though the technology to make nuclear weapons will still exist, no terrorist organization, nor any other bad people, will make such weapons.
The existence and deterrent power of nuclear weapons have probably saved as many lives as have antibiotics. As David Von Drehle writes in this week’s Time Magazine, “If the Nobel committee wants someday to honor the force that has done the most over the past 60 years to end industrial-scale war, they will award a peace prize to the bomb.”

Dennis Prager will never be allowed to speak at any legitimate university about his knowledge of Nuclear proliferation in the age terrorists.
It was a huge mistake to allow Pakistan and India to develop nuclear weapons as much as it was a mistake to allow Israel. These two extremely fanatic countries are capable to delivery on their promise with provocation based on religious belief only!

There is nothing rational about these people and for a holy war to end in the hands of a terrorist with a nuclear bomb would be disastrous on a global scale.

Prager wants to let these countries continue obtaining weapons when he clearly knows we can not legally stop them?

Even Bush jr. couldn’t do jack about north korea and iran.

Just a plain irresponsible remark on his part.

6. “Thanks to Obama’s initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting.”
Meaning: To our delight, unlike the previous president, this one believes in global warming and in changing the American economy to combat it.
The “climate change” scare has become the most effective vehicle for compelling a transformation of Western economies along the lines that left-wing environmentalists have urged for decades.

Yea well so what if it is even slightly true. Maybe we need to make some changes to our economy – after all, it isn’t exactly working for the working class it is more like the working class is working for the economy.

7. “Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.”
This, unfortunately, has no meaning; it is nonsense. Under Barack Obama, the United States has not been the friend of democrats around the world. America has responded weakly to the democratic movement in Iran, ended the funding of the largest pro-Iranian human rights groups in America, pressured democratic Israel, made overtures to Hugo Chavez while denying American ally and pro-democratic Colombia a free trade agreement, abandoned Honduran anti-Chavez democrats, and has obsequiously deferred to Vladimir Putin.

Prager had to be kind of careful because Bush Jr. stepped on a lot of toes in presidency in regards to our allies.

One example was Russia who attempted to go towards democracy --- what fueled their recent shift in attitude ? You guessed it – Bush’s foreign policies of dominated regions of crude oil and other natural resources.

8. “Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future.”
Meaning: Only very rarely does the European left have such a kindred spirit in the American presidency.

And so?

9. “His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world’s population.”
Meaning: With Barack Obama, we in Europe finally have an opportunity to end American exceptionalism.
The Oslo committee’s view is, tragically, true. Thanks to Barack Obama, America is for the first time is aligning its values with those of “the majority of the world’s population.” If you think the world’s population has had better values than America, that it has made societies that are more open, free, and tolerant than American society, and that it has fought for others’ liberty more than America has, you should be delighted.

What values are you referring to Dennis? Your values only? When did we decide that only a Jewish radio talk show knows our American values? What about Italians, Mexicans, Irish, Puerto Ricans, Native Americans, African Americans, and everyone else that brings their heritage with them to Ellis Island?

So we are only exceptional because of our exceptional culture and our liberty to express who we our as individuals through our heritage.

Our history as a nation began with the immigration of a few and has never stopped.

I guess it starts and finishes with a Jew named Dennis Prager.

Re: What’s Their Mission, Mr. President? – by Matt Gurney

AlFranken1 — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:59:46 -0000

I'm willing to ignore your last paragraph if you are willing to indulge in Mr. Churchill's progressive accomplishments:

"The National Insurance Act 1911 is an Act of Parliament of the United Kingdom. The Act is often regarded as one of the foundations of modern social welfare in the United Kingdom and forms part of the wider social welfare reforms of the Liberal Government of 1906-1914. The increasing influence of the Labour Party among the population had put the Liberals under pressure to enact social legislation.
The Act was passed in two stages. The National Insurance Act Part I provided for a National Insurance scheme with provision of medical benefits and the National Insurance Act Part II provided for time-limited unemployment benefit . The scheme was to be based on actuarial principles and it was planned that it would be funded by a fixed amount each from workers, employers and the government. The scheme from Part II was restricted to particular industries and neither made any provision for dependants. By 1913 2.3 million were insured under the scheme for unemployment benefit and almost 15 million insured for sickness benefit.
A key assumption of the Act was an unemployment rate of 4.6%. At the time the Act was passed unemployment was at 3% and the fund was expected to quickly build a surplus. Under the Act, employees contributions to the scheme were to be compulsory and taken by the employer before the workers salary was paid.
Britain was not the first country to provide insured benefits; Germany had provided compulsory national insurance against sickness from 1884. Sections of the Conservative party opposed the Act considering that it was not for taxpayers to pay for such benefits. Some trade unions who operated their own insurance schemes and friendly societies were also opposed.
The Act was important as it removed the need for unemployed workers, who were insured under the scheme, to rely on the stigmatised social welfare provisions of the Poor Law. This led to the end of the primacy of the Poor Law as a social welfare provider, resulting in the Poor Law finally being abolished in 1926.
A key figure in the implementation of the Act was Robert Laurie Morant."

That was all Winton's doing as a member of the Liberal Party.

Re: What’s Their Mission, Mr. President? – by Matt Gurney

AlFranken1 — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:35:30 -0000

It was a great post until the last paragraph because Sniper it too much of an idiot to know who Churchill really is"

Churchill is a progressive liberal.

I bet neither one of you knuckleheads knew that!

So quoting a liberal as a great leader to somehow put a stupid spin on it to bash another supposedly liberal is --- well --- simply retarded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

If you go this link and study Churchill's title, you will embarrass yourself enough to see that Churchill merely another WWII hero that is a progressive --- a long line of them if I may add at!!!

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stupid idiots

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